{"id":14412,"date":"2025-07-06T13:00:00","date_gmt":"2025-07-06T13:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/yohrt.com\/news\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact\/"},"modified":"2025-07-06T13:00:00","modified_gmt":"2025-07-06T13:00:00","slug":"i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/yohrt.com\/news\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact\/","title":{"rendered":"#&#8217;I Much Prefer PS Plus&#8217; Lifecycle Management Strategy&#8217;: Devs Weigh in on Xbox Game Pass Impact"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_85 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-custom ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<div class=\"ez-toc-title-container\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\" style=\"cursor:inherit\">Table of Contents<\/p>\n<span class=\"ez-toc-title-toggle\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"ez-toc-pull-right ez-toc-btn ez-toc-btn-xs ez-toc-btn-default ez-toc-toggle\" aria-label=\"Toggle Table of Content\"><span class=\"ez-toc-js-icon-con\"><span class=\"\"><span class=\"eztoc-hide\" style=\"display:none;\">Toggle<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-icon-toggle-span\"><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"list-377408\" width=\"20px\" height=\"20px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\"><path d=\"M6 6H4v2h2V6zm14 0H8v2h12V6zM4 11h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2zM4 16h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2z\" fill=\"currentColor\"><\/path><\/svg><svg style=\"fill: #dd3333;color:#dd3333\" class=\"arrow-unsorted-368013\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"10px\" height=\"10px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" version=\"1.2\" baseProfile=\"tiny\"><path d=\"M18.2 9.3l-6.2-6.3-6.2 6.3c-.2.2-.3.4-.3.7s.1.5.3.7c.2.2.4.3.7.3h11c.3 0 .5-.1.7-.3.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7zM5.8 14.7l6.2 6.3 6.2-6.3c.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7c-.2-.2-.4-.3-.7-.3h-11c-.3 0-.5.1-.7.3-.2.2-.3.5-.3.7s.1.5.3.7z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<nav><ul class='ez-toc-list ez-toc-list-level-1 eztoc-toggle-hide-by-default' ><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-1'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-1\" href=\"https:\/\/yohrt.com\/news\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact\/#%E2%80%98I_Much_Prefer_PS_Plus_Lifecycle_Management_Strategy_Devs_Weigh_in_on_Xbox_Game_Pass_Impact\" >&#8216;I Much Prefer PS Plus&#8217; 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Lifecycle Management Strategy&#8217;: Devs Weigh in on Xbox Game Pass Impact<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h1>\n<div class=\"body body-text article-text\">\n<section class=\"text\">\n<figure class=\"picture\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"scanlines\" title=\"'I Much Prefer PS Plus' Lifecycle Management Strategy': Devs Weigh in on Crippling Xbox Game Pass Impact 1\" href=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/66704054c2ae8\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-crippling-xbox-game-pass-impact-1.large.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" srcset=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/66704054c2ae8\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-crippling-xbox-game-pass-impact-1.450x.jpg 450w, https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/66704054c2ae8\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-crippling-xbox-game-pass-impact-1.900x.jpg\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 799px) 450px, (min-width: 800px)\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/66704054c2ae8\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-crippling-xbox-game-pass-impact-1.900x.jpg\" width=\"900\" height=\"506\" alt=\"'I Much Prefer PS Plus' Lifecycle Management Strategy': Devs Weigh in on Crippling Xbox Game Pass Impact 1\"><\/a><figcaption class=\"caption\"><em class=\"credit\">Image: Push Square<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Microsoft laid off over 9,000 employees this week, with Xbox hit particularly hard. Various games were cancelled, one studio was closed, and too many now find themselves out of work.<\/p>\n<p>In the aftermath of the chaos, people have been looking for answers. In one report by the <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.seattletimes.com\/business\/microsoft\/microsoft-to-lay-off-as-many-as-9000-employees-in-latest-round\/\">Seattle Times<\/a>, it\u2019s claimed that the trillion dollar tech giant is looking to free up capital so it can increase its spending on AI.<\/p>\n<p>The Redmond firm has invested heavily into Sam Altman\u2019s OpenAI, and has been pushing its Copilot product on consumers as a consequence.<\/p>\n<div class=\"insert-label centered insert lazyload for-mobile insert-extended lazyload\">\n<div id=\"PS_MPU_X_N686B99C8B1217\" style=\"min-width:300px; min-height:250px\" data-dfp-id=\"pushsquare\/mobile_web_display\/article\" data-dfp-sizes=\"300x250,300x600\" data-dfp-targeting=\"pos=1,gto=false,experiment=nl-article-mobile-1\" class=\"lazyload\" data-prebid-config=\"Lazy_Load_HP_MPU\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>But when it comes to Xbox, ex-Arkane Studios founder Raphael Colantonio believes there may be another culprit to blame.<\/p>\n<aside class=\"object object-tweet\"><!-- cache: oembed\/https:\/\/twitter.com\/rafcolantonio\/status\/1941503596870369388 @ 2025-07-06T13:32:32+01:00 --><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" align=\"center\"><p><span lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Why is no-one talking about the elephant in the room? Cough cough (Gamepass)<\/span>\u2014 Raphael Colantonio (@rafcolantonio) <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rafcolantonio\/status\/1941503596870369388?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">July 5, 2025<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/aside>\n<p>\u201cWhy is no one talking about the elephant in the room? Cough cough Game Pass,\u201d he wrote not-so subtly on <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/rafcolantonio\/status\/1941503596870369388\">X<\/a> (or <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/rafcolantonio\/status\/1941503596870369388\">Twitter<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>This started a fascinating chain on social media, with a couple of high-profile devs sharing their thoughts on Microsoft\u2019s disruptive business model.<\/p>\n<p>Asked to expand on his thoughts, <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/rafcolantonio\/status\/1941503596870369388\">Colantonio said<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>\u201cI think Game Pass is an unsustainable model that has been increasingly damaging the industry for a decade, subsidised by Microsoft\u2019s \u2018infinite money\u2019, but at some point reality has to hit. I don\u2019t think Game Pass can co-exist with other models, they\u2019ll either kill everyone else, or give up.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Responding to Colantonio\u2019s thread, Larian\u2019s Michael Douse argued \u201cthe infinite money thing never made any sense,\u201d to which <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/rafcolantonio\/status\/1941516413803581493\">Raphael replied<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>\u201cI agree, and I\u2019m fed up with all the bullsh*t they fed us at first like &#8216;Don\u2019t worry, it doesn\u2019t impact the sales&#8217;, only to admit years later that it totally does. &#8216;No sh*t it does! Really?&#8217;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div class=\"insert-label centered insert lazyload for-mobile lazyload\">\n<div id=\"PS_MPU_X_T686B99C8B1271\" style=\"min-width:300px; min-height:250px\" data-dfp-id=\"pushsquare\/mobile_web_display\/article\" data-dfp-sizes=\"300x250\" data-dfp-targeting=\"pos=1,gto=false,experiment=nl-article-mobile-2\" class=\"lazyload\" data-prebid-config=\"Lazy_Load_HP_MPU\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<blockquote><\/blockquote>\n<p>It\u2019s worth noting at this point that Colantonio\u2019s Weird West, created by his new studio WolfEye, did release into Game Pass back in 2022, so he\u2019d probably have a good grasp on the pros and cons of the business model.<\/p>\n<p>Both Douse and Colantonio ultimately agreed that Sony\u2019s approach to subscriptions, adding games later in their lifecycle, is much sturdier approach.<\/p>\n<p><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/Cromwelp\/status\/1941517481463701744\">Douse said<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>\u201cThe economics never made sense, but at the same time I do recognise that for smaller teams with new or riskier IPs it helped de-risk. Much prefer Sony\u2019s \u2018lifecycle management\u2019 strategy.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Sony\u2019s ex-CEO Jim Ryan was strongly criticised earlier in the generation for arguing against the Game Pass business model. At the time, many believed PS5 would fail if <strong>PS Plus<\/strong> didn\u2019t start including first-party games at release.<\/p>\n<p>At the time, he said:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>\u201cWe have had this conversation before \u2013 we are not going to go down the road of putting new releases titles into a subscription model. These games cost many millions of dollars, well over $100 million, to develop. We just don&#8217;t see that as sustainable.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Of course there\u2019s a much larger story at play here, but it\u2019s interesting to see the economics of Game Pass finally brought into focus after years of hand waving from Microsoft and the media at large.<\/p>\n<aside class=\"object object-youtube\">\n<figure class=\"youtube with-primis\" data-videoid=\"DrKuZ-zzNqY\" data-start=\"0\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/DrKuZ-zzNqY?rel=0&amp;hd=1&amp;showinfo=0&amp;modestbranding=0&amp;autohide=1\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"The Best PS Plus Games | 50+ PS Plus Extra and Premium PS5 Games!\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/DrKuZ-zzNqY?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><figcaption>\n<p class=\"youtube-watch\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Watch This Video on YouTube\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=DrKuZ-zzNqY\" class=\"external\" rel=\"noopener\">Watch on <strong><span class=\"icon icon-youtube-play\"><\/span> YouTube<\/strong> <span class=\"icon icon-link-external\"><\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"youtube-sub\">Subscribe to <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"external\" rel=\"noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/pushsquare?sub_confirmation=1\">Push Square<\/a> on <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"sub-button external\" rel=\"noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/pushsquare?sub_confirmation=1\"><span class=\"subs-label\">YouTube<\/span><span class=\"subs\">158k<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/aside>\n<p>One French analyst <a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/oscarlemaire.bsky.social\/post\/3lp7s5rtc6t2e\">reported this week<\/a> that in Europe less than 5% of The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion Remastered\u2019s sales were made on Xbox platforms. That obviously speaks to the shrinking market share of Microsoft\u2019s ecosystem on the continent, but also the wider implications of Game Pass on full-price software sales.<\/p>\n<div class=\"insert-label centered insert lazyload for-mobile lazyload\">\n<div id=\"PS_MPU_X_A686B99C8B12EF\" style=\"min-width:300px; min-height:250px\" data-dfp-id=\"pushsquare\/mobile_web_display\/article\" data-dfp-sizes=\"300x250\" data-dfp-targeting=\"pos=1,gto=false,experiment=nl-article-mobile-3\" class=\"lazyload\" data-prebid-config=\"Lazy_Load_HP_MPU\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Obviously we still don\u2019t have enough data to know one way or another what kind of impact this business model is having on Xbox\u2019s bottom line, but it\u2019s becoming increasingly clear that Sony\u2019s more reserved strategy to subscriptions has worked in its favour overall and was ultimately the right call.<\/p>\n<p><!-- cache: html:pushsquare.com\/ssl\/playstation-plus\/related-articles:130617,184707 @ 1751879578 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class=\"related-content\">\n<div class=\"author-info\">\n<section class=\"block author\">\n<header class=\"widget-header\">\n<p>About <span class=\"accent\">Sammy Barker<\/span><\/p>\n<\/header>\n<div class=\"body\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"img lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/4271\/photo\/0\/avatar.jpg?v=1709294233\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Sammy Barker\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"text\">\n<p>As the Editor of Push Square, Sammy has over 15 years of experience analysing the world of PlayStation, from PS3 through PS5 and everything in between. He\u2019s an expert on PS Studios and industry matters, as well as sports games and simulators. He also enjoys RPGs when he has the time to dedicate to them, and is a bit of a gacha whale.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li class=\" first\"><span class=\"icon icon-profile\"><\/span> Author Profile<\/li>\n<li><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"external\" href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/get2sammyb.bsky.social\"><span class=\"icon icon-bsky\"><\/span> Bluesky<\/a><\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" onclick=\"return replyTo('get2sammyb');\" href=\"#\"><span class=\"icon icon-comments\"><\/span> Reply<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/section>\n<div class=\"insert with-label centered block lazyload for-desktop lazyload\">\n<div id=\"PS_MPU_X_C686B99C8B1BDC\" style=\"min-width:300px; min-height:250px\" data-dfp-id=\"pushsquare\/desktop_web_display\/article\" data-dfp-sizes=\"300x250\" data-dfp-targeting=\"pos=1,gto=false,experiment=nl-article-foot-after-author\" class=\"lazyload\" data-prebid-config=\"LAZY_DESKTOP\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"comments-list\">\n<section id=\"comments\" class=\"block comments\">\n<header class=\"widget-header\">\n<p>Comments <span class=\"counter comment-count\">192<\/span><\/p>\n<\/header>\n<div class=\"body\">\n<div class=\"comments hidden-comments\" data-subject=\"dgp:news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact\">\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726246\" data-author=\"users\/225544\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726246\" data-dislikes=\"4\" data-id=\"8726246\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/225544\/avatar.jpg?v=1748255014\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Max_the_German\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726246\">1<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Max_the_German<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T13:05:00+00:00\">Yesterday, 2:05pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>They are all right. Without Gamepass, Microsoft wouldn\u2019t have closed these studios due to costs being too high for the expected success. The proof: Sony offers no Gamepass and has never fired people or closed an entire studio.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">6<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726248\" data-author=\"users\/287633\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726248\" data-dislikes=\"1\" data-id=\"8726248\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"trev666\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726248\">2<\/a><\/li>\n<li>trev666<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T13:06:13+00:00\">Yesterday, 2:06pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>lets not make out that Sony hasnt laid off people, closed studios and cancelled games.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">16<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment is-supporter\" id=\"comment8726251\" data-author=\"users\/150937\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726251\" data-dislikes=\"1\" data-id=\"8726251\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/150937\/avatar.jpg?v=1715942932\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"johncalmc\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726251\">3<\/a><\/li>\n<li>johncalmc<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T13:07:22+00:00\">Yesterday, 2:07pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Everyone who ever tried to argue that Gamepass was sustainable because &#8220;Phil Spencer said so&#8221; should get a lump of coal for Christmas. It was obviously never sustainable. It&#8217;s ridiculous, and little more than a thinly veiled attempt by Xbox to brute force relevance in a market that had long stopped caring about them.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">29<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726252\" data-author=\"users\/49223\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726252\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726252\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/49223\/avatar.jpg?v=1701706718\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"cusman\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726252\">4<\/a><\/li>\n<li>cusman<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T13:08:25+00:00\">Yesterday, 2:08pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>I&#8217;ve been saying for years, Microsoft Xbox&#8217;s biggest strategic mistake is the unsustainable Game Pass subscription model.<\/p>\n<p>They spoiled the market for sales on their own consoles and they will never have enough subscribers to make up the costs of these games.<\/p>\n<p>This is why they are now porting &amp; selling all their games on PlayStation, Nintendo, etc where games are still bought by people who want to play them.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">28<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726256\" data-author=\"users\/280776\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726256\" data-dislikes=\"1\" data-id=\"8726256\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/280776\/avatar.jpg?v=1737283317\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"graymamba\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726256\">5<\/a><\/li>\n<li>graymamba<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T13:12:05+00:00\">Yesterday, 2:12pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@cusman we\u2019ve all been saying it for years mate\u2026 but the bots just accuse us of being fanboys for stating something that held credible critical analysis. The people who are the first to use the fanboy accusation are almost always the actual fanboys.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">19<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726258\" data-author=\"users\/175814\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726258\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726258\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/175814\/avatar.jpg?v=1550237925\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"dskatter\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726258\">6<\/a><\/li>\n<li>dskatter<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T13:13:25+00:00\">Yesterday, 2:13pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@trev666 Show me the comparable massive across-the-board game studio layoffs\/shutdowns which came out of nowhere that Sony has done in the last five years.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">15<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726263\" data-author=\"users\/71951\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726263\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726263\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/71951\/avatar.jpg?v=1733694359\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Nintendo4Sonic\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726263\">7<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Nintendo4Sonic<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T13:16:23+00:00\">Yesterday, 2:16pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>That&#8217;s absolutely my talking about Game Pass since a lot of months. But most XBox users are acting like I&#8217;m a fool.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">3<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726265\" data-author=\"users\/276878\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726265\" data-dislikes=\"1\" data-id=\"8726265\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/276878\/avatar.jpg?v=1743896373\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"UltimateOtaku91\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726265\">8<\/a><\/li>\n<li>UltimateOtaku91<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T13:16:45+00:00\">Yesterday, 2:16pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>The worst part is is that xbox fans don&#8217;t even care, as long as they get their day one games on gamepass they don&#8217;t bat an eyelid about studio closures or games under performing sales wise. I&#8217;ve seen it myself this week on social media and Purexbox with people saying these Studio closures take nothing away from the amazing releases to come, these games were years away so doesn&#8217;t matter and gamepass is still worth it etc whilst neglecting to see the bigger picture and trying to push a positive narrative.<\/p>\n<p>This is what gamepass has done to its player base, it has made them way too reliant on the service whilst neglecting to buy games and actually support the devs. There&#8217;s clearly going to be more closures, lay offs and even price increases for gamepass and at some point they will start to care, but probably when it&#8217;s too late.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">22<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment is-supporter\" id=\"comment8726266\" data-author=\"users\/351203\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726266\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726266\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/351203\/avatar.jpg?v=1748469496\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Scribedby\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726266\">9<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Scribedby<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T13:17:07+00:00\">Yesterday, 2:17pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Game Pass is something that came along because nobody else was doing it. If you think about the layoffs most can be attributed to the strategy that Microsoft has foreseen. Also though, It\u2019s attributed mostly to how many employees Microsoft has taken on and their internal restructuring that\u2019s putting AI at the forefront of gaming development.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">2<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726268\" data-author=\"users\/287633\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726268\" data-dislikes=\"1\" data-id=\"8726268\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"trev666\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726268\">10<\/a><\/li>\n<li>trev666<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T13:18:08+00:00\">Yesterday, 2:18pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@dskatter <br \/>these studios have been shut in the last 5 years and just last month sony bend just laid off 30% off their staff<\/p>\n<p>studio london<br \/>pixelopus <br \/>neon loi<br \/>firewalk studios<br \/>japan studio<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">13<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment is-supporter\" id=\"comment8726270\" data-author=\"users\/4271\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726270\" data-dislikes=\"4\" data-id=\"8726270\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/4271\/avatar.jpg?v=1529104267\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"get2sammyb\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726270\">11<\/a><\/li>\n<li>get2sammyb<span title=\"Push Square Supporter\" class=\"icon icon-hookshot supporter-badge\"><\/span> <span title=\"Push Square \/ Hookshot Staff\" class=\"icon icon-star user-admin\"><\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T13:20:57+00:00\">Yesterday, 2:20pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@trev666 No one is ignoring that at all.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">9<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726271\" data-author=\"users\/287633\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726271\" data-dislikes=\"1\" data-id=\"8726271\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"trev666\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726271\">12<\/a><\/li>\n<li>trev666<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T13:22:18+00:00\">Yesterday, 2:22pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@get2sammyb the very first comment on this comments page does<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The proof: Sony offers no Gamepass and has never fired people or closed an entire studio.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">14<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726272\" data-author=\"users\/310923\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726272\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726272\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Hi569\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726272\">13<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Hi569<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T13:23:20+00:00\">Yesterday, 2:23pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Why do you think they are selling games on playstation now to make up for gamepass not from the goodness of there heart<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">2<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726274\" data-author=\"users\/342504\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726274\" data-dislikes=\"1\" data-id=\"8726274\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/342504\/avatar.jpg?v=1721653637\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Oram77\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726274\">14<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Oram77<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T13:26:25+00:00\">Yesterday, 2:26pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>I said this before in a previous article, gamepass is an amazing value for the consumer but overall terrible for the gaming industry. Didn&#8217;t Sony come out and say a couple of years ago and say it&#8217;s unsustainable? TO BE CLEAR PS+ is far from perfect before anyone says I&#8217;m trying to start any console war nonsense.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">6<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment is-supporter\" id=\"comment8726276\" data-author=\"users\/351203\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726276\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726276\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/351203\/avatar.jpg?v=1748469496\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Scribedby\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726276\">15<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Scribedby<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T13:27:00+00:00\">Yesterday, 2:27pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Also, if Sony had the capability to do Game Pass. I\u2019m pretty sure they would if they were in Microsoft\u2019s position. But as it stands they aren\u2019t and that\u2019s probably a good thing. If the shoe was on the other foot and all that. That\u2019s why it\u2019s best to see this sort of situation from both sides.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment removed\" id=\"comment8726282\" data-author=\"users\/332621\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726282\" data-dislikes=\"3\" data-id=\"8726282\" data-status=\"4\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/332621\/avatar.jpg?v=1743581019\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Ricky-Spanish\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726282\">16<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Ricky-Spanish<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T13:35:24+00:00\">Yesterday, 2:35pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Removed &#8211; trolling\/baiting<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li><\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726284\" data-author=\"users\/332621\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726284\" data-dislikes=\"6\" data-id=\"8726284\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/332621\/avatar.jpg?v=1743581019\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Ricky-Spanish\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726284\">17<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Ricky-Spanish<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T13:39:17+00:00\">Yesterday, 2:39pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>It is what it is as a consumer I&#8217;m winning!!<br \/>People get sacked in the games industry constantly and Microsoft employ more than most!<br \/>I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s more greedy shareholders wanting there cuts of the record profits rather then totally down to gamepass in reality!<br \/>And like someone said earlier if Sony could afford to do it they would \ud83e\udd37<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">7<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726289\" data-author=\"users\/87150\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726289\" data-dislikes=\"1\" data-id=\"8726289\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/87150\/avatar.jpg?v=1423408868\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Grumblevolcano\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726289\">18<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Grumblevolcano<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T13:43:32+00:00\">Yesterday, 2:43pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Didn&#8217;t the FTC trial already provide the evidence that Game Pass was unsustainable?<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">4<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726294\" data-author=\"users\/192411\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726294\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726294\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/192411\/avatar.jpg?v=1746536302\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"RBMango\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726294\">19<\/a><\/li>\n<li>RBMango<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T13:45:59+00:00\">Yesterday, 2:45pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>A LOT of people have been sounding the alarm about Game Pass&#8217;s blindingly obvious unsustainability for many years. The difference now is that many more people don&#8217;t believe Xbox leadership&#8217;s nonsense about GP being profitable and encouraging more spending on their platform. Anyone with a basic grasp of economics and how video games are made knows Phil Spencer&#8217;s honeyed words about the service and its viability are almost all lies.<\/p>\n<p>And for anyone reading this who is upset that I&#8217;m directly calling out Spencer, maybe you should be more upset at him for spoonfeeding you bull**** over the past two generations and fracturing Xbox&#8217;s console health and culture beyond repair.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">9<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726297\" data-author=\"users\/280776\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726297\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726297\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/280776\/avatar.jpg?v=1737283317\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"graymamba\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726297\">20<\/a><\/li>\n<li>graymamba<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T13:49:07+00:00\">Yesterday, 2:49pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Ricky-Spanish nope\u2026 that\u2019s just what I\u2019ve found since trying to have a dialogue. You take it however you want to justify your own narrative though\u2026 you guys always do.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">9<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726298\" data-author=\"users\/121516\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726298\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726298\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/121516\/avatar.jpg?v=1627136884\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Fiendish-Beaver\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726298\">21<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Fiendish-Beaver<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T13:50:59+00:00\">Yesterday, 2:50pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>I&#8217;ve been saying for years that I don&#8217;t think that Game Pass is sustainable. The <strong>only<\/strong> reason that Microsoft are releasing their games on PlayStation is because they are not making enough money on their own platform (and PC, where of course Game Pass is available <strong>and<\/strong> growing). If Game Pass was not canalising sales, then Xbox would still have exclusive games.<\/p>\n<p>I have said many times that within the next 5 years that Game Pass will be gone, or at the very least fundamentally changed to a first-party only service (which may then allow it to be made available on the PlayStation).<\/p>\n<p>Personally, I think Microsoft want to stop the service now, but are uncertain how to navigate the issue of people having stacked years of the service. I mean, if Microsoft decide to stop the service, they would likely have to refund all those stacked months, which would probably cost them billions.<\/p>\n<p>Ultimately, I think that Game Pass will cease within the next 5 years, and Microsoft will withdraw from the console market around the same time&#8230;<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">7<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726299\" data-author=\"users\/334967\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726299\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726299\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"TruestoryYep\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726299\">22<\/a><\/li>\n<li>TruestoryYep<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T13:51:20+00:00\">Yesterday, 2:51pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@cusman That doesn&#8217;t explain why Playstation is also porting and selling their games on Xbox and PC too.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">2<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726304\" data-author=\"users\/265956\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726304\" data-dislikes=\"2\" data-id=\"8726304\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"MFTWrecks\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726304\">23<\/a><\/li>\n<li>MFTWrecks<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T13:53:59+00:00\">Yesterday, 2:53pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Max_the_German If you&#8217;re not making a joke, this is truly next-level spin. Or it&#8217;s a great example of the issues with object permanence we have as a society thanks to the constant rush of new information flying at us every second.<\/p>\n<p>Firewalk got shuttered within weeks of releasing Concord less than a year ago, my guy. That was one of the biggest and most shocking studio closures in recent history.<\/p>\n<p>Sony may do it less frequently, sure, but it is not immune to the trend. Don&#8217;t make stuff up to fit your narrative. It&#8217;s a bad look all around.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">10<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726307\" data-author=\"users\/346142\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726307\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726307\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"lazarus11\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726307\">24<\/a><\/li>\n<li>lazarus11<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T13:57:05+00:00\">Yesterday, 2:57pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Ricky-Spanish difference being sony exclusives sell consoles, the only reason ms started up gamepass was because their console was failing ,for years devs and gamers alike have been saying gamepass isn&#8217;t a viable solution, that&#8217;s why its full of indie games,they want to get some instant money and rely on ps sales to make up the shortfall, and xbox first party because ms has made their bed with gamepass first day releases, if it was sustainable they wouldn&#8217;t be releasing their games on ps, you only have to look at pure xbox comments section, they always ask is it on gamepass or I&#8217;ll wait for gamepass , they simply don&#8217;t buy games, as time goes on you will see less big hitters on there , it will just be ms first party and the deluge of copy cat indie garbage , its full of those now.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">3<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726310\" data-author=\"users\/121516\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726310\" data-dislikes=\"2\" data-id=\"8726310\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/121516\/avatar.jpg?v=1627136884\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Fiendish-Beaver\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726310\">25<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Fiendish-Beaver<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T13:59:16+00:00\">Yesterday, 2:59pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>I agree with you, @Ricky-Spanish, that if you are a heavy Game Pass consumer, then you are absolutely having a blast right now. However, if that is all you do, and you do not support the game industry in any other way, then you are part of the problem. Effectively, you are directly responsible for the studio closures and job losses.<\/p>\n<p>Saying I don&#8217;t care because I am having the time of my life on Game Pass is the equivalent of throwing as many plastic bottles into the sea as you possibly can whilst saying you don&#8217;t care about the environment, and then standing back to watch the world around you burn! Ultimately, you will be affected by your actions at some point&#8230; \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">16<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726311\" data-author=\"users\/342504\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726311\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726311\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/342504\/avatar.jpg?v=1721653637\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Oram77\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726311\">26<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Oram77<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T13:59:26+00:00\">Yesterday, 2:59pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@TruestoryYep Simple answer is money, Helldivers 2 is a live service game which makes sense to be more platforms, please note the likes of Ghost of Tsushima, GoW and TLoU aren&#8217;t coming to Xbox.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">7<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726312\" data-author=\"users\/346142\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726312\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726312\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"lazarus11\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726312\">27<\/a><\/li>\n<li>lazarus11<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T13:59:52+00:00\">Yesterday, 2:59pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@TruestoryYep you think this is gonna be a trend with sony porting their games to xbox because of helldivers 2 , not another one \ud83d\ude02 don&#8217;t be daft<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">6<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726315\" data-author=\"users\/280776\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726315\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726315\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/280776\/avatar.jpg?v=1737283317\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"graymamba\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726315\">28<\/a><\/li>\n<li>graymamba<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T14:04:34+00:00\">Yesterday, 3:04pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Ricky-Spanish I\u2019m winning as I watch the whole industry burn! \ud83e\udd26\ud83c\udffc\u200d\u2642\ufe0f<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">9<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726320\" data-author=\"users\/225544\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726320\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726320\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/225544\/avatar.jpg?v=1748255014\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Max_the_German\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726320\">29<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Max_the_German<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T14:10:22+00:00\">Yesterday, 3:10pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@MFTWrecks I hoped that \u201eThe proof:\u201c in combination with a statement which is clearly false would be telling enough that I was just cynical. Colantonio gives a very one-dimensional explanation here, blaming the publisher, obviously still very frustrated by the events that happened to him.<\/p>\n<p>We mostly see the success stories, but many (most?) games will never earn money, their making was instead a waste of resources, enthusiasm snd creativity. So to thrive, a publisher must eliminate those developments with high costs and high probability of commercial failure as part of its portfolio management.<\/p>\n<p>There are SO MANY game releases these days! And many customers stick to their favourite games for years. Game business is brutal.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726325\" data-author=\"users\/264326\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726325\" data-dislikes=\"1\" data-id=\"8726325\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Neither_scene\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726325\">30<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Neither_scene<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T14:19:41+00:00\">Yesterday, 3:19pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>It\u2019s always crazy to see people commenting on the fact that a game releasing on gamepass also happens to sell less on Xbox as if it\u2019s a surprise. The vast majority of consumers aren\u2019t swimming in money right now, why would they spend \u00a370 to play a title when they can spend \u00a315?<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve just paid \u00a360 for DS2 on ps5, that feels like a lot of money even though I loved DS1. If the physical edition wasn\u2019t available I wouldn\u2019t have bought it. I\u2019ll be trading my copy as soon as I\u2019ve finished my playthrough and hoping to recoup \u00a330 &#8211; \u00a340 of my \u00a360 outlay. Physical games on PlayStation allow me to justify the spend. If PS6 goes all digital and prevents game trading I\u2019ll be done with PlayStation.<\/p>\n<p>I can\u2019t justify \u00a370 on video games when I have other more important cost of living expenses to attend to.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">4<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726328\" data-author=\"users\/332393\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726328\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726328\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/332393\/avatar.jpg?v=1742082628\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"OldGamer999\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726328\">31<\/a><\/li>\n<li>OldGamer999<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T14:23:36+00:00\">Yesterday, 3:23pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Fiendish-Beaver <br \/>Well will soon know when gamepass as we know it stops. As they will stop new subscriptions first and let the remaining die off.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726332\" data-author=\"users\/330088\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726332\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726332\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Dan12836666\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726332\">32<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Dan12836666<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T14:26:45+00:00\">Yesterday, 3:26pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@trev666 I know ye sony do it as well they all do it fanboys are blinkered thwy see only ehat they want see I don&#8217;t want playstation fanboys I mean xbox or Nintendo fanboys as well but I&#8217;d say Nintendo are the best for not laying staff off<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726336\" data-author=\"users\/326340\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726336\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726336\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/326340\/avatar.jpg?v=1685550965\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Scottyy\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726336\">33<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Scottyy<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T14:29:09+00:00\">Yesterday, 3:29pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Never believed that Gamepass was the future. It just didn&#8217;t make sense when it comes to AAA space. Too bad it was the final strategy for Xbox and it blew without even being &#8220;profitable&#8221; anywhere in its life cycle. I am afraid what PS6 generation will be without and competition for Sony in their space since Nintendo is doing its own thing.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726339\" data-author=\"users\/339587\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726339\" data-dislikes=\"1\" data-id=\"8726339\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Rich33\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726339\">34<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Rich33<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T14:31:56+00:00\">Yesterday, 3:31pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Ive maintained since the beginning of this generation that Game Pass is one of the biggest threats to the gaming industry.<\/p>\n<p>The &#8216;Day 1&#8217; part of it promotes average \/ unfinished \/ incomplete games. Any game launching on GP is an instant Red Flag to me (as it just says to me that developer has little faith in their own game selling) &#8211; and I would need a lot more convincing before buying at full price. That doesn&#8217;t mean all games launching on GP are bad, but it is nonetheless a massive Red flag to me.<\/p>\n<p>On average, no developer gains from GP, only XBox; and realistically it (GP), the acquisitions it has led to, along with XBoxs relatively low user base, have all led to XBox being forced to put exclusives onto PS (which in turn has led to a severe downturn in XBox as a platform).<\/p>\n<p>GP has also led to the reduction in actual game sales on XBox consoles as many subscribers wont buy games often, only their subscription (and hope the games they want to play appear on the service at a later date).<\/p>\n<p>The sooner GP is shut down the better in my opinion.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">4<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726341\" data-author=\"users\/355660\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726341\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726341\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/355660\/avatar.jpg?v=1750917892\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"SeaDaVie\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726341\">35<\/a><\/li>\n<li>SeaDaVie<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T14:35:24+00:00\">Yesterday, 3:35pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Ricky-Spanish<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>It is what it is as a consumer I&#8217;m winning!!<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>That\u2019s not how it works. You can gain in the short term but lose out overall. If a deal seems too good to be true then there\u2019s probably a catch.<\/p>\n<p>Take for example the idea of predatory pricing and think how that might be applicable to the MS strategy in the video games industry(not saying it definitely is).<\/p>\n<p><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"external\" href=\"https:\/\/en.m.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Predatory_pricing\">https:\/\/en.m.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Predatory_pricing<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Then there are complex issues relating to the overall market health and how third parties are effected if more money is being funnelled through Xbox\/Playstation ecosystems. Again, this will be more of a long term issues and by the time it is majorly effecting third parties it would be too late for a major course correction. A situation where publishers used to sell products directly to consumers but now sell their product to Xbox\/Playstation and they sell it to customers through a subscription is putting a lot more market power to this big companies.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">9<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726351\" data-author=\"users\/264326\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726351\" data-dislikes=\"1\" data-id=\"8726351\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Neither_scene\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726351\">36<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Neither_scene<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T14:49:32+00:00\">Yesterday, 3:49pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Rich33 So you think gamepass shutting down is going to save the industry? There will be no more studio closures? Every release will enjoy success, people will buy more games? Or will people just look to cheaper forms of entertainment as they are already doing? Gaming is also now facing more competition for our time than ever before &#8211; social media, tik-tok etc. It\u2019s far easier to quit gaming and find other things to occupy your time than it was 10-20 years ago.<\/p>\n<p>Every physical game sale has the potential to damage the industry too. Should we switch to all-digital to prevent resale of games and lost revenue\/sales for publishers?<\/p>\n<p>Should games be $100 as standard to help pay for poor management\/bloated development costs?<\/p>\n<p>The industry is struggling and whilst Gamepass might be a factor it\u2019s far from the only thing responsible.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726352\" data-author=\"users\/355688\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726352\" data-dislikes=\"1\" data-id=\"8726352\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"DaveTheRave\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726352\">37<\/a><\/li>\n<li>DaveTheRave<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T14:53:01+00:00\">Yesterday, 3:53pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Well imagine my surprise. Xbots will never see it though and I don\u2019t think they even particularly care as long as they can keep renting their games lol<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">4<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726353\" data-author=\"users\/339587\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726353\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726353\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Rich33\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726353\">38<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Rich33<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T14:53:06+00:00\">Yesterday, 3:53pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@UltimateOtaku91 <br \/>Are these the same fanboys that proclaimed that their console war was won and that Playstation was dead as soon as the Activision acquisition was announced?<br \/>Or, the same that kept going on about &#8220;full RDNA2&#8221; or &#8220;12Tflops!&#8221;, or that firmly believe the Pro is just an overclocked base console.<\/p>\n<p>Im definitely not saying PS (and Nintendo \/ PC) don&#8217;t have their fanboys (they do), but I 100% agree with you, there is a serious detachment from the reality of the situation here.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">8<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726354\" data-author=\"users\/95423\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726354\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726354\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"FuzzieGinge88\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726354\">39<\/a><\/li>\n<li>FuzzieGinge88<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T14:54:07+00:00\">Yesterday, 3:54pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Hi569 I&#8217;m so glad somebody else has said this. So many people think they&#8217;re doing for the gaming industry but it was conceived because of and continue to be because they need to boost their income because as a long term strategy gamepass has destroyed them. They can sugarcoat it all they want and try and position it as a good thing but the state of Xbox at this current time proves Sony were right all along.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">3<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726357\" data-author=\"users\/191364\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726357\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726357\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/191364\/avatar.jpg?v=1525824811\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"AhmadSumadi\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726357\">40<\/a><\/li>\n<li>AhmadSumadi<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T14:56:22+00:00\">Yesterday, 3:56pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>I\u2019ve said this about Game Pass since day 1! Everyone knew it would come to this! But Xbox changed the strategy because they can\u2019t (directly) compete with Sonys me Nintendo. I\u2019ve been in rooms where this kind of stuff was talked about and usually they know this will happen at the inception of the plan.<\/p>\n<p>One thing that always gets me though, is the constant griping from gamers about wanting to own their physical copies. Then they turned around and praise Game Pass. The two cancel each other out. How can you love both?! I know it\u2019s not walks the same people. But I\u2019ve seen many who argue for physical while simultaneously saying how much they love their Game Pass subscription.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">2<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726360\" data-author=\"users\/332621\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726360\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726360\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/332621\/avatar.jpg?v=1743581019\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Ricky-Spanish\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726360\">41<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Ricky-Spanish<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T14:58:36+00:00\">Yesterday, 3:58pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Fiendish-Beaver Very true but yes I buy loads of games I still like owning games I like no point spending hundreds on a console to just rent the games you play.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726361\" data-author=\"users\/332621\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726361\" data-dislikes=\"1\" data-id=\"8726361\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/332621\/avatar.jpg?v=1743581019\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Ricky-Spanish\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726361\">42<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Ricky-Spanish<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T15:00:49+00:00\">Yesterday, 4pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@graymamba I still buy games dude but I&#8217;m not going to act like I&#8217;m above all that and some savior for gaming!<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s a consumer friendly subscription I&#8217;m a consumer why would I think it&#8217;s the devil \ud83d\ude08<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s corporate greed why those people got sacked not gamepass!<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment is-supporter\" id=\"comment8726365\" data-author=\"users\/326882\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726365\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726365\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/326882\/avatar.jpg?v=1740229626\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"EfYI\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726365\">43<\/a><\/li>\n<li>EfYI<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T15:01:48+00:00\">Yesterday, 4:01pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@MFTWrecks<\/p>\n<p>Playstation has it&#8217;s own set of problems &#8211; they stupidly went all in on chasing a trend that is contrary to an otherwise effective strategy. Until the release of Concord they thought they were on the right track. The fact that Haven still exists proves that PlayStation management is at least partly incompetent.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">3<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726368\" data-author=\"users\/332621\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726368\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726368\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/332621\/avatar.jpg?v=1743581019\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Ricky-Spanish\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726368\">44<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Ricky-Spanish<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T15:04:00+00:00\">Yesterday, 4:04pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@lazarus11 There a few on pure Xbox that would think like that but it&#8217;s definitely the minority I buy loads of games and rent loads off gamepass win win for me!<br \/>I buy what I like the rest is on gamepass the industry is making more money then ever it&#8217;s corporate greed really sacking those people gamepass isn&#8217;t the main reason!<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">2<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment is-supporter\" id=\"comment8726372\" data-author=\"users\/351203\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726372\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726372\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/351203\/avatar.jpg?v=1748469496\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Scribedby\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726372\">45<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Scribedby<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T15:05:36+00:00\">Yesterday, 4:05pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Nobody can dismiss that Game Pass hasn\u2019t had a negative effect on the industry in some way. However, when Sony strolled away with it in the PS4 generation, Game Pass was Microsoft\u2019s only way to gain any sort of momentum back after losing \u2018the most important generation to lose as everyone accumulated a gaming library\u2019. We can talk about how \u2018bad\u2019 Game Pass is, but the subscription model is allowing people to play more games \u2018day one\u2019 than they would actually be able to afford to buy. That\u2019s a consumer win for Xbox or PC fans, but like with anything, it\u2019s not going to suit everyone in the way they wish to support the industry. I buy games and utilise Game Pass. Sometimes I\u2019ll use PS Plus by extension when it makes the best sense to do so. The longevity of Xbox Game Pass is an irrelevance. As long as something is there gamers will continue to enjoy it as is. I think Microsoft is so far into this strategy that Game Pass will keep being an important part of meeting its audience where it\u2019s at. Until, they decide themselves it\u2019s not working. I don\u2019t see how some voices or outside noise influences their decisions either way.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">3<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726373\" data-author=\"users\/355476\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726373\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726373\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/355476\/avatar.jpg?v=1749628512\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Medic_alert\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726373\">46<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Medic_alert<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T15:06:55+00:00\">Yesterday, 4:06pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>The Game pass model was built around the idea of 100m + full paying subscribers month on month. Pulling in 1.5bn a month is no joke.<\/p>\n<p>But the strategy of trying to get it on everything to make those numbers work has failed spectacularly and with it has seen the bouncing from idea to idea and now with Activision there to print them money they no longer need anything else.<\/p>\n<p>Basically, as we saw with Tango, you game either makes money in its own right or your studio is closed and gamepass players aren&#8217;t even factored in.<\/p>\n<p>One by one MS studios will be closed or divested from the portfolio and the same applies for hardware. Show us you can make enough money to be worthwhile or you are gone.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">3<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726374\" data-author=\"users\/280776\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726374\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726374\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/280776\/avatar.jpg?v=1737283317\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"graymamba\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726374\">47<\/a><\/li>\n<li>graymamba<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T15:07:28+00:00\">Yesterday, 4:07pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Ricky-Spanish stop trying to twist stuff (a sure sign of the disingenuous), I never said it wasn\u2019t consumer friendly\u2026 never have done. What I have said for years is that it\u2019s bad for the industry\u2026 you seem to avoid that talking point each and every time though\u2026 conveniently \ud83e\udee0\u2026 I wonder why \ud83e\udd14<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">5<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726376\" data-author=\"users\/349230\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726376\" data-dislikes=\"1\" data-id=\"8726376\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/349230\/avatar.jpg?v=1741235474\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"TicklefistCP\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726376\">48<\/a><\/li>\n<li>TicklefistCP<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T15:12:07+00:00\">Yesterday, 4:12pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>While I appreciate that PushSquare&#8217;s choice of divisive article topics differs from sites like, say, Kotaku, I&#8217;d still prefer to see less of them.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">5<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726380\" data-author=\"users\/339587\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726380\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726380\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Rich33\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726380\">49<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Rich33<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T15:15:22+00:00\">Yesterday, 4:15pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Neither_scene <br \/>Im not saying its the only thing.<\/p>\n<p>Personally, I think the trend of devs releasing games in an unfinished state \/ technical mess, with consumers hoping they will fix it later &#8211; the &#8220;release broken, (possibly) fix later&#8221; problem &#8211; is probably the biggest threat to the industry as a whole right now, given the change in behaviours in people&#8217;s buying that it promotes (I certainly never pre order anything but Sony 1st party now, until reviews and DF type Tech analysis are available, unless a significant demo is involved).<\/p>\n<p>Digital purchasing is being driven by consumers &#8211; they have the choice, and more are choosing this method. That said, the PS6 should at least offer a disc drive as an optional extra (as per PS5 Pro), though whether publishers choose to offer discs is another question.<\/p>\n<p>100 per game is too much, but I know that game price has not kept up with inflation, and think the maximum &#8216;full price&#8217; should go up &#8211; its then on the game devs to prove to you their game is worth it.<\/p>\n<p>But this article was about GP, and the sooner it is shut down (at least in its current format) the better.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726384\" data-author=\"users\/191364\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726384\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726384\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/191364\/avatar.jpg?v=1525824811\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"AhmadSumadi\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726384\">50<\/a><\/li>\n<li>AhmadSumadi<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T15:17:06+00:00\">Yesterday, 4:17pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@TicklefistCP nothing wrong with this topic at all. It\u2019s a topic that can be discussed without vitriol. Push Square doesn\u2019t cause the comments section to explode. That\u2019s on the users ourselves.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">5<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726385\" data-author=\"users\/1690\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726385\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726385\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"__Seraph\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726385\">51<\/a><\/li>\n<li>__Seraph<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T15:17:11+00:00\">Yesterday, 4:17pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@dskatter I don&#8217;t think the whataboutery in the comment you&#8217;re replying to is even relevant to this conversation.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726386\" data-author=\"users\/346142\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726386\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726386\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"lazarus11\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726386\">52<\/a><\/li>\n<li>lazarus11<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T15:17:16+00:00\">Yesterday, 4:17pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Ricky-Spanish theres more than a few to be fair, id say its yourself that&#8217;s in the minority , its not just pure xbox its most xbox centric web pages that echo this sentiment, the sales figures of new games not available on game pass is all the proof you need , I know ps has the bigger install base , but even taking that into consideration , xbox sales are dreadful, after the success of expedition 33, I&#8217;d wager that the sequel will not be day one on gamepass.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">2<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726393\" data-author=\"users\/1690\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726393\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726393\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"__Seraph\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726393\">53<\/a><\/li>\n<li>__Seraph<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T15:21:46+00:00\">Yesterday, 4:21pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Gamepass can be as consumer friendly as it wants, that won&#8217;t matter in the long run if it&#8217;s not sustainable. I used to subscribe to Gamepass, but day 1 games have never really been a selling point to me, I&#8217;m never dying to play a new game I&#8217;m always a year behind. I just play what i feel like at my own pace.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726394\" data-author=\"users\/343215\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726394\" data-dislikes=\"1\" data-id=\"8726394\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"RiverGenie\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726394\">54<\/a><\/li>\n<li>RiverGenie<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T15:22:46+00:00\">Yesterday, 4:22pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>As a consumer game pass has let me play and ultimately buy many more games than I might otherwise have done so.<\/p>\n<p>I can&#8217;t speak for gamepass corporate or it&#8217;s sustainability and frankly I don&#8217;t care., it&#8217;s of no interest to me. While gamepass keeps offering me value as a consumer I will keep using the service.<\/p>\n<p>Think on this I have owned an Xbox only since the launch of this current gen (series consoles.) and have been on Playstation since early PS4 era (before then pc gamer.) I own more games on Xbox than Playstation. So yeah it&#8217;s clear gamepass certainly stopped me buying games \/sarcasm<\/p>\n<p>At this point I only use PS Plus because I have to for multiplayer access.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">2<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726398\" data-author=\"users\/346142\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726398\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726398\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"lazarus11\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726398\">55<\/a><\/li>\n<li>lazarus11<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T15:26:28+00:00\">Yesterday, 4:26pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>I really don&#8217;t understand the gamepass discussion on whether its bad or good for the game industry,when an example is already here , look how streaming channels have destroyed the cinema.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">4<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726400\" data-author=\"users\/175814\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726400\" data-dislikes=\"1\" data-id=\"8726400\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/175814\/avatar.jpg?v=1550237925\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"dskatter\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726400\">56<\/a><\/li>\n<li>dskatter<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T15:26:34+00:00\">Yesterday, 4:26pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@trev666 So over five years Sony closed five studios, but also rolled a sizable number of the employees into other studios.<\/p>\n<p>Microsoft decimated twelve studios under their umbrella, including basically wiping out the team behind Forza Motorsport. In one day.<\/p>\n<p>These two things are not the same.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">15<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726407\" data-author=\"users\/346142\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726407\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726407\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"lazarus11\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726407\">57<\/a><\/li>\n<li>lazarus11<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T15:32:14+00:00\">Yesterday, 4:32pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@dskatter the closure of turn 10 is shocking,they&#8217;ve closed them to fund bethesda and cod studios, 5000 employees by all accounts between the two companies.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">4<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726411\" data-author=\"users\/349230\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726411\" data-dislikes=\"1\" data-id=\"8726411\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/349230\/avatar.jpg?v=1741235474\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"TicklefistCP\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726411\">58<\/a><\/li>\n<li>TicklefistCP<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T15:37:47+00:00\">Yesterday, 4:37pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@AhmadSumadi Well that&#8217;s just plain naive. This isn&#8217;t a news article. It&#8217;s a talking point. User discussion isn&#8217;t happenstance.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726414\" data-author=\"users\/276878\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726414\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726414\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/276878\/avatar.jpg?v=1743896373\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"UltimateOtaku91\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726414\">59<\/a><\/li>\n<li>UltimateOtaku91<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T15:41:41+00:00\">Yesterday, 4:41pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@dskatter Don&#8217;t forget Sony have also created two new Studios in that time as well, Dark Outlaw Games and Team LFG. Also team LFG was made with the laid off Bunjie staff and many other Bunjie staff moving to other Playstation Studios. But of course certain people don&#8217;t like to acknowledge this as it doesn&#8217;t fit their agenda.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">9<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment removed\" id=\"comment8726415\" data-author=\"users\/354800\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726415\" data-dislikes=\"2\" data-id=\"8726415\" data-status=\"4\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"SBBuds\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726415\">60<\/a><\/li>\n<li>SBBuds<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T15:43:01+00:00\">Yesterday, 4:43pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Removed &#8211; inappropriate<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li><\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726416\" data-author=\"users\/132609\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726416\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726416\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/132609\/avatar.jpg?v=1449258083\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Flaming_Kaiser\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726416\">61<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Flaming_Kaiser<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T15:43:14+00:00\">Yesterday, 4:43pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@trev666 Lets be real Microsoft is the old EA its killing off everything fast. Made things like COD worse instead of better more monetized and less value.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">5<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726428\" data-author=\"users\/132609\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726428\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726428\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/132609\/avatar.jpg?v=1449258083\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Flaming_Kaiser\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726428\">62<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Flaming_Kaiser<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T15:48:47+00:00\">Yesterday, 4:48pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@SBBuds If its not viable GP is over faster then you think. It&#8217;s actively hurting the industry. Cant wait to see the model die out.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">3<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726431\" data-author=\"users\/132609\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726431\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726431\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/132609\/avatar.jpg?v=1449258083\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Flaming_Kaiser\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726431\">63<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Flaming_Kaiser<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T15:50:55+00:00\">Yesterday, 4:50pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@dskatter And brought several studio&#8217;s into trouble by cancelling games Platinumgames almost went under.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726432\" data-author=\"users\/354800\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726432\" data-dislikes=\"1\" data-id=\"8726432\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"SBBuds\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726432\">64<\/a><\/li>\n<li>SBBuds<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T15:53:02+00:00\">Yesterday, 4:53pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Flaming_Kaiser we&#8217;ll see, I personally don&#8217;t think it is. Of course people that get laid off complain. These Devs were not forced to put their game on GP.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726434\" data-author=\"users\/355660\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726434\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726434\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/355660\/avatar.jpg?v=1750917892\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"SeaDaVie\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726434\">65<\/a><\/li>\n<li>SeaDaVie<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T15:54:22+00:00\">Yesterday, 4:54pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@SBBuds<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Ofc only 5% of the remasters sales were on Xbox&#8230;..it was on GP<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Whooooosh!<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726437\" data-author=\"users\/354800\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726437\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726437\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"SBBuds\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726437\">66<\/a><\/li>\n<li>SBBuds<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T15:56:34+00:00\">Yesterday, 4:56pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@SeaDaVie I don&#8217;t understand? Did the Devs that made the remaster complain? As far as I can tell the answer to your &#8216;comment&#8217; i&#8217;ve already answered in my original post? \/shrug.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726445\" data-author=\"users\/306720\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726445\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726445\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"rusty82\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726445\">67<\/a><\/li>\n<li>rusty82<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T16:00:54+00:00\">Yesterday, 5pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@TruestoryYep they are porting 1 live service game to Xbox by choice and the baseball game is on Xbox due to the MLB contract.<\/p>\n<p>The games coming to PC are either multiplayer focused if it&#8217;s simultaneous or wait at least a year when sales are slowing or almost stopped.<\/p>\n<p>Microsoft are going forward seemingly porting most games to playstation and many planned games will launch on same day on Xbox as playstation.<\/p>\n<p>Unless something massively changes you won&#8217;t see single player AAA Sony IP on Xbox<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">4<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726446\" data-author=\"users\/175814\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726446\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726446\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/175814\/avatar.jpg?v=1550237925\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"dskatter\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726446\">68<\/a><\/li>\n<li>dskatter<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T16:01:14+00:00\">Yesterday, 5:01pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@UltimateOtaku91 @Flaming_Kaiser Don\u2019t confuse people with facts!<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">4<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726448\" data-author=\"users\/190826\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726448\" data-dislikes=\"1\" data-id=\"8726448\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"junkyfour\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726448\">69<\/a><\/li>\n<li>junkyfour<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T16:01:43+00:00\">Yesterday, 5:01pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>The core difference between Game Pass and streaming services lies in the nature of their value propositions. Game Pass relies heavily on third-party publishers to provide content, whereas major streaming platforms like Netflix were eventually forced into content creation. This distinction is critical because it highlights a structural vulnerability in the Game Pass model: Microsoft does not control most of the content that drives subscriptions. Netflix, early on, faced a similar dependency\u2014its library was filled with licensed content from major studios like Disney. Licensing was extremely costly; in fact, The New York Times reported that in 2012, Netflix paid an estimated $300 million annually to Disney for content rights, a figure that was not sustainable in the long run (\u201cDisney to End Netflix Deal,\u201d NYT, 2017).<\/p>\n<p>Netflix wasn\u2019t profitable for much of its early content-licensing era. For example, in 2014 it reported just $267 million in net income on $5.5 billion in revenue\u2014modest margins considering the cost of content acquisition. Ironically, Netflix became profitable at scale only after Disney pulled its content to launch Disney+, forcing Netflix to invest in and rely on its own original content. This pivot allowed it to control costs and IP, and in turn, generate more consistent and long-term value. As analyst Rich Greenfield noted in Variety in 2021, \u201cNetflix became the Disney of streaming, while Disney tried to become the Netflix.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Importantly, even now that streaming services are turning modest profits, those profits pale in comparison to the old cable carriage model. In 2023, Disney+ became profitable for the first time in its history, yet Disney\u2019s overall revenue from streaming remained billions below what it earned from its legacy TV networks and theatrical releases. Warner Bros. Discovery, which owns Max, reported a slim profit from streaming in Q1 2024, but it still faced a $1.1 billion decline in year-over-year linear revenue. Bob Iger has acknowledged that streaming will never replace the earnings power of the old model.<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s a broader warning here for Xbox and Game Pass. Studios that tried releasing major films day-and-date on streaming\u2014such as Warner Bros. with Wonder Woman 1984\u2014quickly retreated when it became clear that streaming alone could not recoup production costs. Films now return to theatrical-first windows because the economics demand it. Video games are similarly expensive to produce, often costing hundreds of millions of dollars per title. Attempting to fund them primarily through a flat-rate subscription model is unsustainable, particularly when Microsoft must pay publishers for inclusion on Game Pass. Even first-party development is not immune; Redfall and Hi-Fi Rush failed to materially move Game Pass subscriptions, despite high development costs.<\/p>\n<p>Finally, Microsoft\u2019s recent layoff of 1,900 Xbox and Activision employees and its increasing emphasis on AI reveal deeper truths: not only has Microsoft never succeeded in consumer markets, but it also doesn\u2019t care to. The company is prioritizing capital allocation toward enterprise AI, a space it understands and dominates. Its abandonment of consumer initiatives\u2014be it Zune, Windows Phone, Kinect, or Mixer\u2014shows a consistent pattern of disengagement when results lag. Game Pass, however innovative, is just the latest example of a consumer-facing venture that cannot survive the cold math of cost versus return.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">4<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726449\" data-author=\"users\/306720\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726449\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726449\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"rusty82\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726449\">70<\/a><\/li>\n<li>rusty82<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T16:02:54+00:00\">Yesterday, 5:02pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Gamepass is great for consumers in the short term. If I had an Xbox I&#8217;d always have a subscription.<\/p>\n<p>In the long term it&#8217;s destroying Xbox and could be causing a ripple effect<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726452\" data-author=\"users\/344884\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726452\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726452\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"LogicStrikesAgain\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726452\">71<\/a><\/li>\n<li>LogicStrikesAgain<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T16:08:20+00:00\">Yesterday, 5:08pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>I think the problem with Game Pass is the promise of Day 1 for all their AAA games just isn\u2019t sustainable with such such a small user base, especially if it doesnt seem to be growing.<\/p>\n<p>They projected to be around 60M before 2026 if i\u2019m not mistaken. But they\u2019re probably still around the same 35M they were a few years ago. They also probably realized that not all subscribers stay subscribed to a service for the long term, some just subscribe for a month to play the game. Even if subcribers increase, many would still just sign up for a month or two, and leave again. That further <strong>makes it difficult to be sustainable long term.<\/strong> This is also the reason they (and Sony) don\u2019t reveal subscriber numbers anymore, it probably just fluctuates too much.<\/p>\n<p>The service is great and it helped them out of a situation where their brand was becoming obsolete. But they also kind of shot themselves in the foot by promising Day 1 for all their games. They\u2019re locked in to this model now. Especially now that they bought all these studios and publishers, they <em>have<\/em> to put even more AAA games on it Day 1. And since their subcription numbers aren\u2019t growing, and with development costs continually rising, this is just totally unsustainable in the long term. Only reason it\u2019s held on is because the parent company is the wealthiest company in the world. They are probably figuring out how they can pivot from this situation.<\/p>\n<p>Maybe they just need to say that <strong>not every<\/strong> game can be Day 1 anymore (ofcourse there will be backlash, they will just have to project if they can manage the backlash aka loss in subcriptions) and go back to a more sustainable service where some of their games are available to buy for lets say 3-6 months, and some maybe even up to a year before they go on the service. Basically how films usually release in cinemas first, and then after a few months go on streaming services<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726453\" data-author=\"users\/311020\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726453\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726453\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"AverageGamer\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726453\">72<\/a><\/li>\n<li>AverageGamer<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T16:12:07+00:00\">Yesterday, 5:12pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Max_the_German Without Gamepass, Microsoft wouldn\u2019t have bought these studios cause Xbox would have been dead mid Xbox One gen.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726460\" data-author=\"users\/121516\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726460\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726460\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/121516\/avatar.jpg?v=1627136884\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Fiendish-Beaver\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726460\">73<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Fiendish-Beaver<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T16:20:29+00:00\">Yesterday, 5:20pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>That&#8217;s how I think they will do it, @OldGamer999. Much like the Series consoles, which Microsoft no longer seem to be stocking in many parts of the world, I think that Microsoft will cease to sell Game Pass, and that they will allow each subscriber to see out their remaining subscription.<\/p>\n<p>I do think they will keep putting their first-party games on the service because people signed up to Game Pass, partly to play those day one releases on the Service, and so to suddenly say they won&#8217;t be doing that would open them up to a Class Action case, which they would likely lose, and would cost them billions.<\/p>\n<p>If Microsoft are to end the service within the next 5 years, then I think the next one or two years will be the telling ones, because for Microsoft to go about ending Game Pass in this manner, and with people having stacked up to 3 years then they need to be ending it in the relatively near future.<\/p>\n<p>The problem with this idea though, is that how are Microsoft going to attract third-party developers to the service over the last few years, if they have publicly said they are ending it? This is why I think it is such a conundrum from Microsoft. It is all well and good saying that they are going to selling Game Pass, and stop people from signing up, but once they do that, and the subscriber numbers start to dwindle, what developer is going to want to put their game on the service then?<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s a real problem, and truthfully, I&#8217;m not sure Microsoft know how to solve it&#8230;<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726466\" data-author=\"users\/225544\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726466\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726466\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/225544\/avatar.jpg?v=1748255014\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Max_the_German\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726466\">74<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Max_the_German<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T16:26:13+00:00\">Yesterday, 5:26pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@LogicStrikesAgain I\u2018d be surprised if Microsoft had to pay a fixed price for offering a game on GP. A model in which Microsoft pays the publisher a small fixed fee for the number of months in the catalogue plus a bigger fee for every user playing more than X hours is much more likely in my opinion, but it\u2019s just guessing from my side. In such a model, the number of subscribers is of a far less importance.<\/p>\n<p>Does anyone actually know how the payment scheme works for GP games from third-parties?<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726471\" data-author=\"users\/170270\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726471\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726471\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/170270\/avatar.jpg?v=1493750097\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Bingoboyop\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726471\">75<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Bingoboyop<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T16:35:40+00:00\">Yesterday, 5:35pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@MFTWrecks your example is terrible. They released a game it failed and cost sony millions so it was shut. The end. What critical or commercial failure is the cause of the MS shut downs?<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">4<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726488\" data-author=\"users\/341212\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726488\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726488\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/341212\/avatar.jpg?v=1728570330\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Orpheus79V\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726488\">76<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Orpheus79V<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T16:53:16+00:00\">Yesterday, 5:53pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@trev666 That first comment is also blatant sarcasm.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">3<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726489\" data-author=\"users\/355660\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726489\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726489\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/355660\/avatar.jpg?v=1750917892\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"SeaDaVie\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726489\">77<\/a><\/li>\n<li>SeaDaVie<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T16:54:29+00:00\">Yesterday, 5:54pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@SBBuds The discussion is about how gamepass discourages sales and can be harmful and your defence is of course no one bought it, it\u2019s on gamepass. So gamepass literally killed the sales of the game, is that what you\u2019re saying? Cool, guess we can all move on then.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">6<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726491\" data-author=\"users\/355660\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726491\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726491\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/355660\/avatar.jpg?v=1750917892\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"SeaDaVie\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726491\">78<\/a><\/li>\n<li>SeaDaVie<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T16:58:09+00:00\">Yesterday, 5:58pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Max_the_German It varies per game and all options are possible but majority appear to be a strict lump fee for a specific period of time(normally 12 months)<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726492\" data-author=\"users\/332393\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726492\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726492\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/332393\/avatar.jpg?v=1742082628\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"OldGamer999\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726492\">79<\/a><\/li>\n<li>OldGamer999<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T16:59:20+00:00\">Yesterday, 5:59pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Fiendish-Beaver <br \/>Yep they really have got themselves in a conundrum this generation more than any other. <br \/>Not sure how anyone stops a subscription than stop selling it and let it run out with existing members or take a hit in full refunds.<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t think I\u2019ve seen a game console and subscription service so miss managed and even some studios, ever.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726498\" data-author=\"users\/282447\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726498\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726498\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"awp69\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726498\">80<\/a><\/li>\n<li>awp69<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T17:05:21+00:00\">Yesterday, 6:05pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Boy am I glad Push Square published a story about horrors of GamePass. Really eye opening subject they never talk about. And long live console wars!<\/p>\n<p>\/s<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">2<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726500\" data-author=\"users\/271393\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726500\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726500\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/271393\/avatar.jpg?v=1599672540\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Luigia\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726500\">81<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Luigia<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T17:06:07+00:00\">Yesterday, 6:06pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@cusman well said and let\u2019s hope the future is bright for game studios, as they embrace AI and ML to develop games quicker with smaller more affordable budgets.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726501\" data-author=\"users\/265956\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726501\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726501\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"MFTWrecks\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726501\">82<\/a><\/li>\n<li>MFTWrecks<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T17:06:08+00:00\">Yesterday, 6:06pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@EfYI I didn&#8217;t argue otherwise. My statement was purely in response to the factually incorrect comment made by someone else. Nothing more.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726502\" data-author=\"users\/332621\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726502\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726502\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/332621\/avatar.jpg?v=1743581019\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Ricky-Spanish\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726502\">83<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Ricky-Spanish<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T17:06:40+00:00\">Yesterday, 6:06pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@lazarus11 Yeah but it will still be on Xbox because it will sell why bother porting anything on Xbox if it doesn&#8217;t sell??<br \/>Everything gets ported more or less why??<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726503\" data-author=\"users\/265956\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726503\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726503\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"MFTWrecks\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726503\">84<\/a><\/li>\n<li>MFTWrecks<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T17:07:34+00:00\">Yesterday, 6:07pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Bingoboyop Seems like the majority of things put on Gamepass have commercially struggled. That&#8217;s the entire basis for the critique of the service this conversation is based upon. So&#8230; that.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726504\" data-author=\"users\/82137\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726504\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726504\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/82137\/avatar.jpg?v=1593181236\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Jacko11\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726504\">85<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Jacko11<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T17:10:26+00:00\">Yesterday, 6:10pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>So many praised Gamepass, even on this site.<\/p>\n<p>They even defended Xbox saying that it was profitable, when it never was.<\/p>\n<p>Colin Moriarity from LSM stood firm on how this will damage the industry from day 1 and was blasted for it.<\/p>\n<p>Gamepass saved Xbox for a few years, or at least on face value, whilst it slowly corrupted and decayed behind the scenes.<\/p>\n<p>It was obvious from Day 1 what would happen, people just didn\u2019t want to acknowledge it cause \u201cCoNsUmEr FrIeNdLy\u201d &#8211; well look now, it\u2019s killed a large chunk of Xbox.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">6<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment removed\" id=\"comment8726505\" data-author=\"users\/332621\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726505\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726505\" data-status=\"4\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/332621\/avatar.jpg?v=1743581019\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Ricky-Spanish\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726505\">86<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Ricky-Spanish<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T17:11:01+00:00\">Yesterday, 6:11pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Removed &#8211; flaming\/arguing<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li><\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment removed\" id=\"comment8726510\" data-author=\"users\/280776\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726510\" data-dislikes=\"1\" data-id=\"8726510\" data-status=\"4\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/280776\/avatar.jpg?v=1737283317\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"graymamba\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726510\">87<\/a><\/li>\n<li>graymamba<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T17:15:00+00:00\">Yesterday, 6:15pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Removed &#8211; flaming\/arguing<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li><\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726511\" data-author=\"users\/31408\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726511\" data-dislikes=\"1\" data-id=\"8726511\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/31408\/avatar.jpg?v=1705664616\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"K1LLEGAL\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726511\">88<\/a><\/li>\n<li>K1LLEGAL<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T17:17:21+00:00\">Yesterday, 6:17pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>I don\u2019t get it at all. I love Gamepass and I buy a LOT of games on top (across all consoles).<\/p>\n<p>But if anyone here saw a deal for a Playstation game and it was super cheap and they wanted it, they wouldn\u2019t think oh man what about the devs, they would just buy it. If Ghost of Yotei accidentally went up on PSN for \u00a35 you would have an article about it and there would be a sea of comments saying \u201cthanks managed to snag it\u201d or \u201cdamn I missed it\u201d. Very few will say nah hold fire until it\u2019s back to \u00a370. Even though, you know, the devs already got paid.<\/p>\n<p>Point is there is so much crying about whether it is sustainable or unsustainable and it\u2019s been going on for years but what is the point? Just enjoy it! Gamepass is like 7 (or 8?) years old and the crying has been going on for about 5 of those.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s an amazing deal. Xbox will end it when they have to or make it so it\u2019s not such a good deal anymore and everyone would have spent 5 years crying about its sustainability instead of just enjoying it.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">2<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726512\" data-author=\"users\/282447\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726512\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726512\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"awp69\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726512\">89<\/a><\/li>\n<li>awp69<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T17:17:45+00:00\">Yesterday, 6:17pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>And FWIW, there\u2019s been a bunch of stories about how Microsoft is behind the ball on AI and the layoffs this year have been all about putting more money into AI. Microsoft wants to chase the AI money. Unfortunately it\u2019s costing them company-wide to do it.<\/p>\n<p><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"external\" href=\"https:\/\/www.windowscentral.com\/microsoft\/report-microsofts-2025-layoffs-revolve-around-its-desperate-usd80-billion-ai-infrastructure-investment\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">https:\/\/www.windowscentral.com\/microsoft\/report-microsofts-2025-layoffs-revolve-around-its-desperate-usd80-billion-ai-infrastructure-investment<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Not everything is about GamePass as much as people here would like it to be. Just saying.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">4<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment removed\" id=\"comment8726516\" data-author=\"users\/280776\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726516\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726516\" data-status=\"4\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/280776\/avatar.jpg?v=1737283317\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"graymamba\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726516\">90<\/a><\/li>\n<li>graymamba<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T17:19:27+00:00\">Yesterday, 6:19pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Removed &#8211; flaming\/arguing<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li><\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726517\" data-author=\"users\/31408\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726517\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726517\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/31408\/avatar.jpg?v=1705664616\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"K1LLEGAL\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726517\">91<\/a><\/li>\n<li>K1LLEGAL<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T17:22:16+00:00\">Yesterday, 6:22pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@graymamba yea the game developers are crying about it. People here commenting about the article are fine, I didn\u2019t say they aren\u2019t.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment removed\" id=\"comment8726525\" data-author=\"users\/332621\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726525\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726525\" data-status=\"4\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/332621\/avatar.jpg?v=1743581019\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Ricky-Spanish\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726525\">92<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Ricky-Spanish<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T17:33:53+00:00\">Yesterday, 6:33pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Removed &#8211; flaming\/arguing<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li><\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment is-supporter\" id=\"comment8726527\" data-author=\"users\/326882\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726527\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726527\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/326882\/avatar.jpg?v=1740229626\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"EfYI\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726527\">93<\/a><\/li>\n<li>EfYI<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T17:36:43+00:00\">Yesterday, 6:36pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@RiverGenie<\/p>\n<p>I have a few comments:<\/p>\n<p>How many new, full priced games have you bought whilst having GamePass?<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll tell you the truth &#8211; you have bought less games full priced since getting a subscription and prices of full games going up.<\/p>\n<p>And so have everyone else!!<\/p>\n<p>I can&#8217;t blame you for taking a good deal. I won&#8217;t do that. But I can blame the company behind when it leads to so many layoffs despite the company delivering profits. And as long as there hasn&#8217;t exactly been a game of the year from Xbox studios EVER since Game pass began you can&#8217;t say that the model promotes the very best in games. It is common sense that it would promote malpractice most of the time.<\/p>\n<p>You use PS Plus more than you care to admit. You use it to build a library of titles you may or may not play, and if you have &#8216;Extra&#8217; that&#8217;s one more library of available content.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">3<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment removed\" id=\"comment8726528\" data-author=\"users\/332621\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726528\" data-dislikes=\"1\" data-id=\"8726528\" data-status=\"4\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/332621\/avatar.jpg?v=1743581019\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Ricky-Spanish\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726528\">94<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Ricky-Spanish<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T17:37:19+00:00\">Yesterday, 6:37pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Removed &#8211; disrespecting others<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li><\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment removed\" id=\"comment8726529\" data-author=\"users\/280776\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726529\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726529\" data-status=\"4\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/280776\/avatar.jpg?v=1737283317\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"graymamba\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726529\">95<\/a><\/li>\n<li>graymamba<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T17:38:58+00:00\">Yesterday, 6:38pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Removed &#8211; flaming\/arguing<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li><\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726530\" data-author=\"users\/312550\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726530\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726530\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Artois2\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726530\">96<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Artois2<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T17:42:07+00:00\">Yesterday, 6:42pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@trev666 what? You took that comment seriously?<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment is-supporter\" id=\"comment8726531\" data-author=\"users\/351203\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726531\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726531\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/351203\/avatar.jpg?v=1748469496\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Scribedby\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726531\">97<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Scribedby<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T17:42:54+00:00\">Yesterday, 6:42pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>\u201cXbox Game Pass has featured over 60 Game of the Year winning titles. These games have been recognised by over 30 different outlets.\u201d Just leaving this here. Since launch as well! <i title=\":smiley:\" style=\"background-image:url(https:\/\/cdnjs.cloudflare.com\/ajax\/libs\/twemoji\/14.0.2\/svg\/1f603.svg)\" class=\"twa twa-lg twa-smiley\"><\/i><\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment removed\" id=\"comment8726532\" data-author=\"users\/332621\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726532\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726532\" data-status=\"4\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/332621\/avatar.jpg?v=1743581019\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Ricky-Spanish\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726532\">98<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Ricky-Spanish<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T17:44:54+00:00\">Yesterday, 6:44pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Removed &#8211; trolling\/baiting<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li><\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment is-supporter\" id=\"comment8726534\" data-author=\"users\/326882\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726534\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726534\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/326882\/avatar.jpg?v=1740229626\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"EfYI\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726534\">99<\/a><\/li>\n<li>EfYI<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T17:46:51+00:00\">Yesterday, 6:46pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@junkyfour<\/p>\n<p>This is easily the best comment in this thread. Super insightful and credible.<\/p>\n<p>Thank you!<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment removed\" id=\"comment8726535\" data-author=\"users\/280776\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726535\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726535\" data-status=\"4\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/280776\/avatar.jpg?v=1737283317\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"graymamba\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726535\">100<\/a><\/li>\n<li>graymamba<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T17:47:06+00:00\">Yesterday, 6:47pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Removed &#8211; flaming\/arguing<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li><\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment removed\" id=\"comment8726546\" data-author=\"users\/332621\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726546\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726546\" data-status=\"4\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/332621\/avatar.jpg?v=1743581019\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Ricky-Spanish\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726546\">101<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Ricky-Spanish<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T17:59:10+00:00\">Yesterday, 6:59pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Removed &#8211; flaming\/arguing<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li><\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726548\" data-author=\"users\/280776\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726548\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726548\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/280776\/avatar.jpg?v=1737283317\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"graymamba\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726548\">102<\/a><\/li>\n<li>graymamba<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:00:44+00:00\">Yesterday, 7pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Ricky-Spanish well you obviously couldn\u2019t do that like\u2026<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726552\" data-author=\"users\/31408\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726552\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726552\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/31408\/avatar.jpg?v=1705664616\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"K1LLEGAL\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726552\">103<\/a><\/li>\n<li>K1LLEGAL<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:03:11+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:03pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Ricky-Spanish I guess it will never get resolved; you will always have haters who just want it to go away. But they are missing out as consumers for sure. Gamepass has been banger after banger especially recently. Unless you play 2 games a year then \ud83e\udd37\u200d\u2642\ufe0f<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">3<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment removed\" id=\"comment8726554\" data-author=\"users\/332621\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726554\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726554\" data-status=\"4\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/332621\/avatar.jpg?v=1743581019\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Ricky-Spanish\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726554\">104<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Ricky-Spanish<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:04:45+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:04pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Removed &#8211; flaming\/arguing<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li><\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726556\" data-author=\"users\/170270\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726556\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726556\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/170270\/avatar.jpg?v=1493750097\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Bingoboyop\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726556\">105<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Bingoboyop<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:05:18+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:05pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@MFTWrecks yeah that&#8217;s my point. Concord failed because it was ass. A lot of the failure of these gamepass games can be attributed to the gamepass itself not the quality of the game.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment removed\" id=\"comment8726559\" data-author=\"users\/280776\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726559\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726559\" data-status=\"4\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/280776\/avatar.jpg?v=1737283317\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"graymamba\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726559\">106<\/a><\/li>\n<li>graymamba<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:06:28+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:06pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Removed &#8211; flaming\/arguing<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li><\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726561\" data-author=\"users\/355149\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726561\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726561\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/355149\/avatar.jpg?v=1749131755\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Anya-chan\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726561\">107<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Anya-chan<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:07:49+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:07pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>100% agree gp is like a big infection that is slowing but surely killing xbox but xbox without gp is nothing 0 value so they have no other way to keep gp even that means getting the &#8220;infection&#8221; spread<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726562\" data-author=\"users\/332621\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726562\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726562\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/332621\/avatar.jpg?v=1743581019\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Ricky-Spanish\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726562\">108<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Ricky-Spanish<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:07:57+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:07pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@K1LLEGAL It be what it be my friend \ud83e\udd17 <br \/>But yeah this year so far has been amazing my backlog is bulging like never before but going to ignore tony hawk&#8217;s till I get a couple knocked off it \u270c\ufe0f<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">2<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment removed\" id=\"comment8726565\" data-author=\"users\/332621\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726565\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726565\" data-status=\"4\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/332621\/avatar.jpg?v=1743581019\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Ricky-Spanish\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726565\">109<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Ricky-Spanish<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:08:58+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:08pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Removed &#8211; flaming\/arguing<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li><\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment removed\" id=\"comment8726567\" data-author=\"users\/280776\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726567\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726567\" data-status=\"4\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/280776\/avatar.jpg?v=1737283317\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"graymamba\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726567\">110<\/a><\/li>\n<li>graymamba<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:11:02+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:11pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Removed &#8211; flaming\/arguing<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li><\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment is-supporter\" id=\"comment8726568\" data-author=\"users\/326882\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726568\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726568\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/326882\/avatar.jpg?v=1740229626\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"EfYI\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726568\">111<\/a><\/li>\n<li>EfYI<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:11:30+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:11pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Scribedby<\/p>\n<p>Newsflash: GamePass celebrates its sixty-year anniversary with a record-breaking streak of 60 years of featuring a winner of &#8216;the game of the year&#8217;-award.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;..<\/p>\n<p>So, what are those 60 games? Lists or it never happened.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726571\" data-author=\"users\/31408\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726571\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726571\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/31408\/avatar.jpg?v=1705664616\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"K1LLEGAL\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726571\">112<\/a><\/li>\n<li>K1LLEGAL<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:13:01+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:13pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@graymamba but with regards to the negative impact it has on the industry, these publishers are choosing to sign a Gamepass deal. Pocket Pair even recently said how great it was. They don\u2019t have to.<\/p>\n<p>If anything it gives developers\/publishers another choice. Get sales on Steam\/Playstation\/Nintendo and some upfront cash from Xbox.<\/p>\n<p>The devs at Microsoft themselves are already getting paid which people seem to forget. The layoffs sound like they were just due to Microsoft being ***** and wanted to squeeze each department for cash for AI investment. No proof Gamepass has anything to do with it, unless i\u2019m missing something?<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">2<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment removed\" id=\"comment8726572\" data-author=\"users\/332621\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726572\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726572\" data-status=\"4\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/332621\/avatar.jpg?v=1743581019\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Ricky-Spanish\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726572\">113<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Ricky-Spanish<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:13:02+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:13pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Removed &#8211; flaming\/arguing<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li><\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment is-supporter\" id=\"comment8726573\" data-author=\"users\/326882\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726573\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726573\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/326882\/avatar.jpg?v=1740229626\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"EfYI\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726573\">114<\/a><\/li>\n<li>EfYI<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:13:17+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:13pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Ricky-Spanish \ud83d\ude02\ud83c\udf7b<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726574\" data-author=\"users\/31408\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726574\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726574\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/31408\/avatar.jpg?v=1705664616\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"K1LLEGAL\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726574\">115<\/a><\/li>\n<li>K1LLEGAL<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:13:40+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:13pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@EfYI most likely Expedition 33 for one!<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726575\" data-author=\"users\/332621\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726575\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726575\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/332621\/avatar.jpg?v=1743581019\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Ricky-Spanish\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726575\">116<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Ricky-Spanish<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:14:08+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:14pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@EfYI \ud83e\uddd1\u200d\ud83d\udcbb\ud83d\ude01\ud83e\udd2a<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment removed\" id=\"comment8726577\" data-author=\"users\/280776\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726577\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726577\" data-status=\"4\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/280776\/avatar.jpg?v=1737283317\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"graymamba\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726577\">117<\/a><\/li>\n<li>graymamba<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:16:35+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:16pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Removed &#8211; trolling\/baiting<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li><\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment is-supporter\" id=\"comment8726583\" data-author=\"users\/326882\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726583\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726583\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/326882\/avatar.jpg?v=1740229626\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"EfYI\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726583\">118<\/a><\/li>\n<li>EfYI<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:19:36+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:19pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@K1LLEGAL<\/p>\n<p>I would smile and wave any other year, but this year KCD II was released. So, whatever Game of the Year-award they win, I will absolutely regard that award as the best and most important GOTY-award.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726584\" data-author=\"users\/31408\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726584\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726584\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/31408\/avatar.jpg?v=1705664616\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"K1LLEGAL\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726584\">119<\/a><\/li>\n<li>K1LLEGAL<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:21:14+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:21pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@graymamba I was genuinely trying to have a conversation, i\u2019m not an idiot. But ok.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">3<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726585\" data-author=\"users\/280776\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726585\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726585\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/280776\/avatar.jpg?v=1737283317\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"graymamba\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726585\">120<\/a><\/li>\n<li>graymamba<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:22:31+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:22pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@K1LLEGAL yeah I probably shouldn\u2019t have grouped you in with that, you actually seem a pretty decent guy. My apologies \ud83d\udc4a<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">2<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment removed\" id=\"comment8726586\" data-author=\"users\/332621\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726586\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726586\" data-status=\"4\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/332621\/avatar.jpg?v=1743581019\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Ricky-Spanish\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726586\">121<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Ricky-Spanish<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:22:55+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:22pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Removed &#8211; flaming\/arguing<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li><\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment removed\" id=\"comment8726589\" data-author=\"users\/280776\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726589\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726589\" data-status=\"4\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/280776\/avatar.jpg?v=1737283317\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"graymamba\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726589\">122<\/a><\/li>\n<li>graymamba<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:24:59+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:24pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Removed &#8211; flaming\/arguing<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li><\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment is-supporter\" id=\"comment8726591\" data-author=\"users\/4271\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726591\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726591\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/4271\/avatar.jpg?v=1529104267\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"get2sammyb\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726591\">123<\/a><\/li>\n<li>get2sammyb<span title=\"Push Square Supporter\" class=\"icon icon-hookshot supporter-badge\"><\/span> <span title=\"Push Square \/ Hookshot Staff\" class=\"icon icon-star user-admin\"><\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:27:26+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:27pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@K1LLEGAL There&#8217;s really nothing wrong with being a consumer and taking advantage of something you think is a good deal. No one&#8217;s arguing against that.<\/p>\n<p>But, in the case of this story at least, these particular developers don&#8217;t believe it makes business sense.<\/p>\n<p>Others may have a different viewpoint.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">4<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment is-supporter\" id=\"comment8726593\" data-author=\"users\/4271\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726593\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726593\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/4271\/avatar.jpg?v=1529104267\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"get2sammyb\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726593\">124<\/a><\/li>\n<li>get2sammyb<span title=\"Push Square Supporter\" class=\"icon icon-hookshot supporter-badge\"><\/span> <span title=\"Push Square \/ Hookshot Staff\" class=\"icon icon-star user-admin\"><\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:28:26+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:28pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Also, just a reminder guys, the thread is growing fast and large.<\/p>\n<p>I think there&#8217;s a lot of good discussion going on here, but let&#8217;s stay on topic as much as possible and be respectful of each other even when we disagree. <i title=\":smiley:\" style=\"background-image:url(https:\/\/cdnjs.cloudflare.com\/ajax\/libs\/twemoji\/14.0.2\/svg\/1f603.svg)\" class=\"twa twa-lg twa-smiley\"><\/i><\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">9<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726596\" data-author=\"users\/280776\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726596\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726596\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/280776\/avatar.jpg?v=1737283317\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"graymamba\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726596\">125<\/a><\/li>\n<li>graymamba<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:30:16+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:30pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@get2sammyb while I totally get you\u2026 the trouble is dude, respect is earned and lost depending on experience and interactions. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck\u2026 it\u2019s a duck.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726601\" data-author=\"users\/332621\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726601\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726601\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/332621\/avatar.jpg?v=1743581019\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Ricky-Spanish\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726601\">126<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Ricky-Spanish<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:36:07+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:36pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@graymamba To be honest the layoffs are more due to shareholders wanting there slice of the record profits and corporate greed I&#8217;d highly doubt it&#8217;s solely to fund gamepass but whatever!<br \/>\nAnd I&#8217;m just trying to have a laugh with you it&#8217;s good to have banter and the joke the odd time \u270c\ufe0f<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">2<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment removed\" id=\"comment8726602\" data-author=\"users\/280776\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726602\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726602\" data-status=\"4\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/280776\/avatar.jpg?v=1737283317\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"graymamba\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726602\">127<\/a><\/li>\n<li>graymamba<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:37:09+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:37pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Removed &#8211; flaming\/arguing<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li><\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment removed\" id=\"comment8726605\" data-author=\"users\/332621\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726605\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726605\" data-status=\"4\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/332621\/avatar.jpg?v=1743581019\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Ricky-Spanish\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726605\">128<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Ricky-Spanish<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:39:24+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:39pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Removed &#8211; flaming\/arguing<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li><\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment is-supporter\" id=\"comment8726606\" data-author=\"users\/351203\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726606\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726606\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/351203\/avatar.jpg?v=1748469496\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Scribedby\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726606\">129<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Scribedby<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:40:23+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:40pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@EfYI Maybe do some research and stop with the misinformation? A quick Google search will help anyone. I\u2019m not going to do the work for you.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment removed\" id=\"comment8726607\" data-author=\"users\/280776\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726607\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726607\" data-status=\"4\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/280776\/avatar.jpg?v=1737283317\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"graymamba\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726607\">130<\/a><\/li>\n<li>graymamba<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:43:33+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:43pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Removed &#8211; flaming\/arguing<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li><\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726608\" data-author=\"users\/334916\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726608\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726608\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/334916\/avatar.jpg?v=1699190253\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"BintendoMan\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726608\">131<\/a><\/li>\n<li>BintendoMan<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:46:22+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:46pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>#ColinWasRight<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726610\" data-author=\"users\/280776\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726610\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726610\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/280776\/avatar.jpg?v=1737283317\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"graymamba\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726610\">132<\/a><\/li>\n<li>graymamba<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:47:18+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:47pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@BintendoMan #weallwere \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment is-supporter\" id=\"comment8726611\" data-author=\"users\/351203\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726611\" data-dislikes=\"1\" data-id=\"8726611\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/351203\/avatar.jpg?v=1748469496\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Scribedby\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726611\">133<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Scribedby<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:47:36+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:47pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>It\u2019s a shame so many actually think that any of this matters. It\u2019s an article written with clear intention to kick up a fuss over nothing. It\u2019s been a typical theme of many years. Sure, it gets hits and bravo for that, but at the same time, it also clearly indicates the absolute bottom of the barrel when it comes to the legions who try to provoke the mistruths in the industry.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment is-supporter\" id=\"comment8726613\" data-author=\"users\/351203\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726613\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726613\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/351203\/avatar.jpg?v=1748469496\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Scribedby\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726613\">134<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Scribedby<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:49:53+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:49pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>That\u2019s not a \u2018get\u2019 at anyone. But honestly, being more transparent and objective would help your causes.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726617\" data-author=\"users\/191364\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726617\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726617\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/191364\/avatar.jpg?v=1525824811\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"AhmadSumadi\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726617\">135<\/a><\/li>\n<li>AhmadSumadi<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:52:23+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:52pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@TicklefistCP this is PushSquare reporting the opinion of someone within the industry. This isn\u2019t PushSquare giving you the opinion of someone who works at PushSquare. Should they just always ignore the opinion of people who are directly affected by the thing they\u2019re opining upon?<\/p>\n<p>It would be one thing if Sammy (or anyone else on PushSquare staff) was giving us his own opinion. That\u2019s not what\u2019s happening here. It\u2019s an another thing completely that he\u2019s reporting on the opinion of a developer who\u2019s stating his opinion on a happening that\u2019s affecting his own industry. This is news! This isn\u2019t an editorial.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">4<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment is-supporter\" id=\"comment8726622\" data-author=\"users\/326882\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726622\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726622\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/326882\/avatar.jpg?v=1740229626\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"EfYI\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726622\">136<\/a><\/li>\n<li>EfYI<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:57:45+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:57pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Scribedby<\/p>\n<p>Well, it is settled for me I guess. I will take that comment as a joke. It didn&#8217;t make any logic sense, but it is nice to have you confirm that you can&#8217;t actually lists the games.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726623\" data-author=\"users\/31408\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726623\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726623\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/31408\/avatar.jpg?v=1705664616\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"K1LLEGAL\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726623\">137<\/a><\/li>\n<li>K1LLEGAL<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:58:31+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:58pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@get2sammyb of course there are always different viewpoints about pretty much everything. And yes Gamepass won\u2019t work for everyone, even on the dev side. But it\u2019s an option, one of these devs even used it! It\u2019s a choice of a different revenue stream. But they can ignore it if they want. I just don\u2019t see the damage they do; unless Xbox game sales were their main revenue driver.<\/p>\n<p>Also would be nice to see the article bring in those that say Gamepass is good.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment is-supporter\" id=\"comment8726626\" data-author=\"users\/326882\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726626\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726626\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/326882\/avatar.jpg?v=1740229626\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"EfYI\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726626\">138<\/a><\/li>\n<li>EfYI<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T18:59:58+00:00\">Yesterday, 7:59pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@graymamba<\/p>\n<p>The black mamba strikes again!<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726627\" data-author=\"users\/280776\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726627\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726627\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/280776\/avatar.jpg?v=1737283317\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"graymamba\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726627\">139<\/a><\/li>\n<li>graymamba<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T19:00:49+00:00\">Yesterday, 8pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@EfYI black mamba is dead unfortunately<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment is-supporter\" id=\"comment8726628\" data-author=\"users\/351203\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726628\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726628\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/351203\/avatar.jpg?v=1748469496\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Scribedby\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726628\">140<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Scribedby<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T19:01:26+00:00\">Yesterday, 8:01pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@EfYI Are you serious? Oh no, maybe that\u2019s the joke.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726629\" data-author=\"users\/241630\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726629\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726629\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Balosi\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726629\">141<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Balosi<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T19:01:48+00:00\">Yesterday, 8:01pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>I&#8217;ve been one of the many arguing that game pass is unsustainable for years, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s the main reason for Microsoft&#8217;s cutting. They bought too much, grew too fast, plenty of other companies have made the same mistake. Every company you buy out is more costs and employees to look after, more things to manage.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment is-supporter\" id=\"comment8726631\" data-author=\"users\/351203\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726631\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726631\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/351203\/avatar.jpg?v=1748469496\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Scribedby\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726631\">142<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Scribedby<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T19:03:18+00:00\">Yesterday, 8:03pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Balosi Exactly, each have their own faults. No company is a white knight.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">2<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726637\" data-author=\"users\/342504\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726637\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726637\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/342504\/avatar.jpg?v=1721653637\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Oram77\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726637\">143<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Oram77<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T19:11:29+00:00\">Yesterday, 8:11pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Scribedby To be fair, I don&#8217;t think anyone said that PSN is perfect (because it&#8217;s not), we are just stating that GP is unsustainable (which it is). I will say it once more &#8220;GP is amazing value for gamers, but really isn&#8217;t helping the industry as a whole&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">3<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726638\" data-author=\"users\/345404\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726638\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726638\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/345404\/avatar.jpg?v=1727352185\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Hairy_Potter\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726638\">144<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Hairy_Potter<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T19:11:50+00:00\">Yesterday, 8:11pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Raphael wrote what anyone who can count 2+2 has long known. Or at least suspects.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment is-supporter\" id=\"comment8726639\" data-author=\"users\/351203\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726639\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726639\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/351203\/avatar.jpg?v=1748469496\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Scribedby\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726639\">145<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Scribedby<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T19:15:05+00:00\">Yesterday, 8:15pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Not sure if I\u2019m allowed to post this. However, there has been many awards over the years back-dated for Game Pass. Find the article by Luke on True Achievements. Again, it really doesn\u2019t matter. The service provides a great value. I would also argue that with Microsoft going more PC next generation and there being a clear indication that this is where the Game Pass growth is heading. To add to that, I don\u2019t see Game Pass going anywhere.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment is-supporter\" id=\"comment8726641\" data-author=\"users\/351203\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726641\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726641\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/351203\/avatar.jpg?v=1748469496\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Scribedby\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726641\">146<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Scribedby<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T19:15:58+00:00\">Yesterday, 8:15pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Oram77 Fair point, I\u2019ve never said it\u2019s sustainable in its current format. But as is so in business, formats change.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726642\" data-author=\"users\/344469\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726642\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726642\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Bluemoon2008\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726642\">147<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Bluemoon2008<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T19:16:53+00:00\">Yesterday, 8:16pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Gamepass isnt a sustainable model on its own, that has been said aince its inception but that doesnt impact anybody but Microsoft. Everybody else should take advantage of it whilst they can.<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t understand why devs think it harms the industry.<\/p>\n<p>Devs have a choice of accepting gamepass money or not, if they choose to accept it, it&#8217;s then on them to agree to a deal they&#8217;re satisfied with and should anticipate that figure will replace the bulk of sales on that platform.<\/p>\n<p>If a dev doesn&#8217;t want to go to a subscription service and is worried about sales as people wait for it then they should simply make it clear in their marketing of their game that they have no intention of ever going to a subscription service to inform those that would otherwise wait. If they then reverse their decision later down the line and have their cake and eat it by coming to a subscription service, they&#8217;ll burn all bridges with their audience for future releases.<\/p>\n<p>Gamepass is great for everybody but Microsoft. Enjoy it whilst you can.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">2<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment is-supporter\" id=\"comment8726644\" data-author=\"users\/351203\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726644\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726644\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/351203\/avatar.jpg?v=1748469496\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Scribedby\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726644\">148<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Scribedby<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T19:17:17+00:00\">Yesterday, 8:17pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Also, I appreciate the ones being respectful to me. Thank you for that! All our opinions differ.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726675\" data-author=\"users\/346142\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726675\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726675\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"lazarus11\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726675\">149<\/a><\/li>\n<li>lazarus11<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T20:22:33+00:00\">Yesterday, 9:22pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Ricky-Spanish they&#8217;ve ported helldivers 2 and that&#8217;s it, it was already ported to pc ,it wouldn&#8217;t be expensive to port it across to xbox from pc, and sony aren&#8217;t even promoting the xbox version, unlike ms promoting the pro version of doom, it was basically an X post, sales will probably be dreadful just like ff16, and that will be the end of that.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726678\" data-author=\"users\/346142\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726678\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726678\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"lazarus11\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726678\">150<\/a><\/li>\n<li>lazarus11<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T20:27:16+00:00\">Yesterday, 9:27pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@K1LLEGAL pocket pair , unknown studio who rips off nintendo, to make there indie game by taking some cash from ms, to make it xbox exclusive and on game pass ,of course they&#8217;re gonna say its a good idea \ud83d\ude02<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726682\" data-author=\"users\/332621\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726682\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726682\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/332621\/avatar.jpg?v=1743581019\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Ricky-Spanish\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726682\">151<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Ricky-Spanish<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T20:32:20+00:00\">Yesterday, 9:32pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@lazarus11 Sure what can you do I wouldn&#8217;t lose sleep over it life goes on I&#8217;ll enjoy playing it\ud83d\ude01<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726683\" data-author=\"users\/242842\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726683\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726683\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Runex2121\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726683\">152<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Runex2121<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T20:33:05+00:00\">Yesterday, 9:33pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@SeaDaVie You can say its a short term victory, but Ive been winning since gamepass launched 8 years ago and I dont see it ending anytime soon. Eventually itll evolve, but by that time Ill probably be done with gaming as a whole. So not really concerned about short term vs long term.<\/p>\n<p>Honestly, the industry is due for another early 80s style crash. A good old fashioned reset. I just hope its in about 10 years or so when Im in some retirement community playing pickleball and shuffleboard.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726686\" data-author=\"users\/346142\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726686\" data-dislikes=\"1\" data-id=\"8726686\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"lazarus11\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726686\">153<\/a><\/li>\n<li>lazarus11<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T20:33:16+00:00\">Yesterday, 9:33pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Scribedby no it won&#8217;t go anywhere, xbox is dead without it , gamepass is far more important to them than any new xbox console , its just working out to be far more expensive than they actually thought , it will increase in price as well ,before they release anymore big hitters from their studios, most of the games are just throwaway 1hr gaming sessions, people aren&#8217;t as invested in a game as much as they would be, if they paid for it in full, e33 would&#8217;ve made a fortune on pc if it wasn&#8217;t for gamepass , i kind of think they probably regret that decision now, they shouldve had more faith in their product.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726687\" data-author=\"users\/346142\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726687\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726687\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"lazarus11\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726687\">154<\/a><\/li>\n<li>lazarus11<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T20:35:30+00:00\">Yesterday, 9:35pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Runex2121 interesting that you think you&#8217;d be done with gaming if it wasn&#8217;t for gamepass, why is that ?<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726688\" data-author=\"users\/312453\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726688\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726688\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/312453\/avatar.jpg?v=1749467316\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Markatron84\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726688\">155<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Markatron84<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T20:36:16+00:00\">Yesterday, 9:36pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Dear Hookshot,<\/p>\n<p>When you inevitably post this story on Pure Xbox tomorrow, do us all a favour: disable the comments and just copy\/paste this thread into the comments section. It&#8217;ll save everyone a lot of time and effort.<\/p>\n<p>Regards,<\/p>\n<p>Mark<br \/>xxx<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726690\" data-author=\"users\/346142\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726690\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726690\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"lazarus11\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726690\">156<\/a><\/li>\n<li>lazarus11<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T20:37:13+00:00\">Yesterday, 9:37pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Ricky-Spanish I think youre missing the point , I cant see anyone in this comment section losing sleep about anything that was said , what a strange thing to say.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">2<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726697\" data-author=\"users\/341664\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726697\" data-dislikes=\"1\" data-id=\"8726697\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/341664\/avatar.jpg?v=1715738232\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"PuppetMaster\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726697\">157<\/a><\/li>\n<li>PuppetMaster<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T20:49:19+00:00\">Yesterday, 9:49pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>We got so many proof that showed GP is unsustainable and damaging the game industry. But it&#8217;s crazy how some people still denying the facts and defending GP.<\/p>\n<p>I hope there will be more 3rd party publishers \/ devs who realized how bad GP is for their games and refused MS offers to release their games on GP at day 1.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">3<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726699\" data-author=\"users\/280776\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726699\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726699\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/280776\/avatar.jpg?v=1737283317\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"graymamba\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726699\">158<\/a><\/li>\n<li>graymamba<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T20:55:48+00:00\">Yesterday, 9:55pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p><em>[Removed &#8211; mamba 3:16]<\/em> \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment is-supporter\" id=\"comment8726700\" data-author=\"users\/351203\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726700\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726700\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/351203\/avatar.jpg?v=1748469496\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Scribedby\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726700\">159<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Scribedby<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T20:56:03+00:00\">Yesterday, 9:56pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@lazarus11 Xbox was fundamentally dead the moment they announced the Xbox One. Xbox Game Pass is their only way back to an extent. So I agree, I just think we all benefit from having three consoles around you know? I know everyone has their preferences and I\u2019m not trying to ***** on anybody\u2019s parade. I just like positivity and in the most part there\u2019s been a lot of throwing just anything around of late. I just want Microsoft to be straight with us, and to go into next generation with a clear identity that can give some competition still. If that means they do it in the value department through lower console prices or store fees for games that promotes buying, and free online in the sense of their forthcoming PC-centric console identity. Then by all means as a multi-console gamer, I don\u2019t understand why anybody would really have issue with that. But that\u2019s just me. I understand it\u2019s all subjective and I respect people for having a different opinion. I just won\u2019t tolerate backbiting when all I\u2019m trying to do is join in with no sort of brand allegiance. I just enjoy the discussion and it\u2019s great when we can all do it civilly and meaningfully.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726711\" data-author=\"users\/355688\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726711\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726711\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"DaveTheRave\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726711\">160<\/a><\/li>\n<li>DaveTheRave<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T21:13:36+00:00\">Yesterday, 10:13pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Runex2121 you mean you\u2019ve been renting since gamepass launched 8 years ago \ud83d\ude06<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">3<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726721\" data-author=\"users\/242842\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726721\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726721\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Runex2121\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726721\">161<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Runex2121<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T21:26:32+00:00\">Yesterday, 10:26pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@DaveTheRave I dont need the illusion of ownership physical brings. Ive been all digital since it was feasible in the 00s. Gamepass is like renting, but with first party games its eternal renting and with third party it often leads to a purchase, though not as much recently as I just dont have time to play. (I may even let my sub lapse as I am my ps+ premium this year.)<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726722\" data-author=\"users\/242842\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726722\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726722\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Runex2121\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726722\">162<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Runex2121<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T21:29:37+00:00\">Yesterday, 10:29pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@lazarus11 A bit of a twist there. I mean Ill be done with gaming by the time gamepass is gone. (Ie im getting old and gaming is becoming less of a priority in my freetime, kids, likely grandkids in 5-10 years or less, retirement, etc&#8230;)<\/p>\n<p>Gamepass does extend my gaming by allowing me to try many games id never bother with, but even that will only go so far.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726723\" data-author=\"users\/182873\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726723\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726723\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Cvantez\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726723\">163<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Cvantez<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T21:35:03+00:00\">Yesterday, 10:35pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@TicklefistCP Agree. This article about a social media comment is red meat to this echo chamber. Appreciate that there are some holistic opinions in the comments. This industry is on fire but GP ain\u2019t the cause of it. Competition for time and eyeballs, AI, the worldwide economy, geopolitical uncertainty\u2026.hell, live service games are a bigger threat to devs houses than pretty much anything else. GP may play a part but as someone above said, shutting down GP would barely change the dynamic.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726727\" data-author=\"users\/31408\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726727\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726727\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/31408\/avatar.jpg?v=1705664616\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"K1LLEGAL\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726727\">164<\/a><\/li>\n<li>K1LLEGAL<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T21:48:45+00:00\">Yesterday, 10:48pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@lazarus11 well not necessarily. Remember Palworld was popular. Like really popular. So they probably feel like they lost a lot of potential sales from Gamepass. Yet they still praise it.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726729\" data-author=\"users\/182873\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726729\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726729\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Cvantez\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726729\">165<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Cvantez<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T21:49:34+00:00\">Yesterday, 10:49pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@AhmadSumadi Cherry-picking a comment from social media to support what\u2019s become a prevailing (but unsupported) opinion here is very much from the Fox News playbook.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726730\" data-author=\"users\/339587\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726730\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726730\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Rich33\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726730\">166<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Rich33<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T21:52:18+00:00\">Yesterday, 10:52pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Ricky-Spanish <br \/>&#8220;the layoffs are more due to shareholders wanting there slice of the record profits and corporate greed I&#8217;d highly doubt it&#8217;s solely to fund gamepass&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I think thats a small part of it, and I have seen others mention that MS is trying to raise money for AI.<\/p>\n<p>However, the key thing is that a large % of Xbox studios are reliant on GP to fund them, at least in part, due to loss of sales with their games having to be on GP.<br \/>Why I say in part, is that in some cases those studios are making money selling on PS5\/PC.<\/p>\n<p>As someone else said higher up the comments, GP likely has no where close to the number of subscribers that were predicted by themselves for this point in time, and I very much doubt subscriber count is growing much either.<\/p>\n<p>The size of XBox studios as a whole (and its overall running cost) will have been set (planned) based on their predicted GP subscriber numbers &#8211; if the latter is not as big as they predicted, the former has to shrink, hence the closures.<\/p>\n<p>On the shareholder front &#8211; if the info I have read in the past is correct, it is MS the parent company that gave XBox the money to purchase Activision and Bethesda etc (as XBox wanted the acquisitions to grow GP) &#8211; near $100bn by the time you factor in additional costs including court costs etc.<br \/>This in turn has likely led to the Shareholders\/investers demanding greater payouts, particularly if GP has failed to grow as predicted &#8211; remember, the Shareholders\/investors will have seen these predictions as promises. <br \/>XBox, possibly following the demands of MS, have also started releasing games on PS to try and recoup some of this approx $100bn.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">3<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment removed\" id=\"comment8726732\" data-author=\"users\/280776\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726732\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726732\" data-status=\"4\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/280776\/avatar.jpg?v=1737283317\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"graymamba\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726732\">167<\/a><\/li>\n<li>graymamba<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T21:54:42+00:00\">Yesterday, 10:54pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Removed &#8211; flaming\/arguing<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li><\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment is-supporter\" id=\"comment8726742\" data-author=\"users\/4271\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726742\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726742\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/4271\/avatar.jpg?v=1529104267\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"get2sammyb\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726742\">168<\/a><\/li>\n<li>get2sammyb<span title=\"Push Square Supporter\" class=\"icon icon-hookshot supporter-badge\"><\/span> <span title=\"Push Square \/ Hookshot Staff\" class=\"icon icon-star user-admin\"><\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T22:05:30+00:00\">Yesterday, 11:05pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Markatron84 I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;ll be plenty left for people to discuss, Mark!<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">1<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment is-supporter\" id=\"comment8726743\" data-author=\"users\/4271\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726743\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726743\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/4271\/avatar.jpg?v=1529104267\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"get2sammyb\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726743\">169<\/a><\/li>\n<li>get2sammyb<span title=\"Push Square Supporter\" class=\"icon icon-hookshot supporter-badge\"><\/span> <span title=\"Push Square \/ Hookshot Staff\" class=\"icon icon-star user-admin\"><\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T22:06:59+00:00\">Yesterday, 11:06pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Cvantez Except this is the founder of Arkane Studios and a high profile employee from Larian.<\/p>\n<p>And I didn&#8217;t mention it in the article, but ex-Sony executive Shawn Layden also commented on this.<\/p>\n<p>You&#8217;re free to disagree with them, but these are big names in the industry.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">4<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726745\" data-author=\"users\/280776\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726745\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726745\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/280776\/avatar.jpg?v=1737283317\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"graymamba\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726745\">170<\/a><\/li>\n<li>graymamba<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T22:15:20+00:00\">Yesterday, 11:15pm<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@get2sammyb yup\u2026 and they\u2019ll just continue to close their eyes, stick their fingers in their ears and sing \u201clalala\u2026\u201d in the most dulcet of tones \ud83d\ude48\ud83d\ude49\ud83d\ude4a<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">2<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726772\" data-author=\"users\/182873\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726772\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726772\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Cvantez\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726772\">171<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Cvantez<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T23:01:56+00:00\">12:01am<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@graymamba You, who are the enlightened one. We shall just listen to you. Nice.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726773\" data-author=\"users\/280776\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726773\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726773\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/280776\/avatar.jpg?v=1737283317\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"graymamba\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726773\">172<\/a><\/li>\n<li>graymamba<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T23:03:01+00:00\">12:03am<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Cvantez you could do a lot worse tbh<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726774\" data-author=\"users\/346142\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726774\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726774\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"lazarus11\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726774\">173<\/a><\/li>\n<li>lazarus11<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T23:03:43+00:00\">12:03am<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Scribedby oh i would much prefer for ms to be in the situation they was with the xbox one , major competition for Sony, us gamers are better off for that , just look at sonys releases for 2024 2025 , they&#8217;re few and far between, if it wasn&#8217;t for 3rd party deals they would have astrobot, no way that would&#8217;ve happened in the ps4 days , just seems like that&#8217;s the future of gaming now , which is kind of depressing<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726777\" data-author=\"users\/346142\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726777\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726777\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"lazarus11\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726777\">174<\/a><\/li>\n<li>lazarus11<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T23:05:53+00:00\">12:05am<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@K1LLEGAL it was popular because of gamepass, it was pc and xbox only and available on gamepass , nobody would&#8217;ve bought that nonsense, I dont know if its been released on ps5 yet, ive no interest in that crap<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726778\" data-author=\"users\/346142\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726778\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726778\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"lazarus11\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726778\">175<\/a><\/li>\n<li>lazarus11<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T23:08:14+00:00\">12:08am<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Runex2121 God mate don&#8217;t say that, im 56 this year I&#8217;ve got a full time job and I work split shifts weird hours , ive got 5 kids and 2 grandkids , and i still find the time , never let life get in the way of something you enjoy, its short enough as it is , you can always find the time, ive used holidays from work to play a big game \ud83d\ude02 im looking forward to the gears release on ps5 , ill have the controller in hand , cig in my mouth and a bottle of whisky on the table till 4am \ud83d\ude02<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726794\" data-author=\"users\/312453\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726794\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726794\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/312453\/avatar.jpg?v=1749467316\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Markatron84\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726794\">176<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Markatron84<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T23:42:52+00:00\">12:42am<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@get2sammyb No kisses? Wow.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726795\" data-author=\"users\/312453\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726795\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726795\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/312453\/avatar.jpg?v=1749467316\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Markatron84\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726795\">177<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Markatron84<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-06T23:44:03+00:00\">12:44am<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@lazarus11<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>ill have the controller in hand , cig in my mouth and a bottle of whisky on the table till 4am \ud83d\ude02<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>You&#8217;re my spirit animal.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726806\" data-author=\"users\/299908\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726806\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726806\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"RoomWithaMoose\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726806\">178<\/a><\/li>\n<li>RoomWithaMoose<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-07T00:03:30+00:00\">1:03am<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Mmm, I dunno. I more think the excessive acquisitions, lack of a hardware\/software commercial success in years, undoubtable mismanagement behind the scenes, and relentless competition from Sony\/Nintendo lead to this wave of layoffs. If anyone gains from GamePass, it&#8217;s Microsoft itself. I see how the model doesn&#8217;t make sense for 3rd-party developers, but when Micro&#8217;s making all the cash from subs, it should work. Unless they&#8217;ve massively discounted it for years now \u2014 which would be stupid of them to do for so long.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m sure GamePass is less profitable than traditional hardware and software sales. But with the market how it is now, Xbox would probably be broke if they were still trying to compete directly with PlayStation and Switch. Now, whoever thought being in 3rd place meant it the perfect time to spend billions on studios \u2014 many of which weren&#8217;t commercial rockstars \u2014 should probably be fired. Of course they won&#8217;t be, and profits will be up because of layoffs. It&#8217;s almost like&#8230;everything is stupid, or something.<\/p>\n<p>Anyhoo, how long until more layoffs hit Bungie?<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726819\" data-author=\"users\/249751\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726819\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726819\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"RBRTMNZ\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726819\">179<\/a><\/li>\n<li>RBRTMNZ<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-07T00:36:42+00:00\">1:36am<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>These layoffs didn\u2019t happen because of GP failing. They happened because of greed. Xbox is more profitable than its ever been and Microsoft is obscenely profitable. All these people beating their various hobby horses are just taking attention away from the actual problem\u2026corporate greed.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726842\" data-author=\"users\/191364\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726842\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726842\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/191364\/avatar.jpg?v=1525824811\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"AhmadSumadi\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726842\">180<\/a><\/li>\n<li>AhmadSumadi<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-07T01:55:52+00:00\">2:55am<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Cvantez Fox \u201cNews\u201d finds a comment from a random Redditor and says \u201cEverybody\u201d is saying this. This article is written specifically saying this one guy in the industry thinks this is the reason. It\u2019s just like asking an \u201cexpert\u201d for their opinion.<\/p>\n<p>You\u2019re posting the falsest of equivalences here. The guy posted his tweet and was asked to elaborate. They didn\u2019t just run with his single tweet. Very different than what Fox \u201cNews\u201d does.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">3<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726895\" data-author=\"users\/355688\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726895\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726895\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/static.pushsquare.com\/themes\/base\/images\/avatar.svg\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"DaveTheRave\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726895\">181<\/a><\/li>\n<li>DaveTheRave<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-07T05:21:10+00:00\">6:21am<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Runex2121 and what happens if Xbox live or psn goes down permanently.. bye games. This is the legacy you and other are creating for the rest of us by doing that<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726908\" data-author=\"users\/332621\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726908\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726908\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/332621\/avatar.jpg?v=1743581019\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Ricky-Spanish\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726908\">182<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Ricky-Spanish<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-07T06:49:08+00:00\">7:49am<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@lazarus11 It&#8217;s is what it is I really haven&#8217;t got the energy to defend why I enjoy gamepass to like 20 people ha<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s sad for people effected but that&#8217;s not my problem I&#8217;m a consumer I&#8217;m just here to game not to convince you of anything I&#8217;ll do me you do you and the world keeps spinning<br \/>\nThe sales of games is not my problem I buy games if that helps \ud83e\udd37<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment removed\" id=\"comment8726910\" data-author=\"users\/332621\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726910\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726910\" data-status=\"4\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/332621\/avatar.jpg?v=1743581019\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Ricky-Spanish\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726910\">183<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Ricky-Spanish<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-07T06:53:27+00:00\">7:53am<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Removed &#8211; flaming\/arguing<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li><\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment removed\" id=\"comment8726928\" data-author=\"users\/280776\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726928\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726928\" data-status=\"4\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/280776\/avatar.jpg?v=1737283317\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"graymamba\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726928\">184<\/a><\/li>\n<li>graymamba<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-07T07:48:20+00:00\">8:48am<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Removed &#8211; flaming\/arguing<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li><\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726929\" data-author=\"users\/329932\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726929\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726929\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/329932\/avatar.jpg?v=1709487805\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"SJR\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726929\">185<\/a><\/li>\n<li>SJR<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-07T07:50:44+00:00\">8:50am<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Not a surprise that GamePass is killing the industry<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment removed\" id=\"comment8726934\" data-author=\"users\/332621\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726934\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726934\" data-status=\"4\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/332621\/avatar.jpg?v=1743581019\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Ricky-Spanish\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726934\">186<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Ricky-Spanish<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-07T08:10:54+00:00\">9:10am<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>Removed &#8211; flaming\/arguing<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li><\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726956\" data-author=\"users\/342389\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726956\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726956\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/342389\/avatar.jpg?v=1729762822\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Oz_Who_Dat_Dare\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726956\">187<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Oz_Who_Dat_Dare<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-07T08:54:10+00:00\">9:54am<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Max_the_German the difference is &#8211; Sony isn&#8217;t the biggest publisher on all platforms. And Sony isn&#8217;t a multi-trillion corporate bohemoth selling off it&#8217;s assets for monopoly stakes in AI. I know Sony is the market leader in consoles &#8211; by an astronomical mile &#8211; but it&#8217;s still small fry compared to the investment of M$&#8230; and the main thing that people (IMHO) are worried about is the vulnerability of having so many studios under control of a company that actually doesn&#8217;t really care about gaming&#8230; and a business model that has seen M$ as the main customer for games (by subsidising games to be on GP), rather than the actual people that play those games.<\/p>\n<p>And yes &#8211; Sony will continue being Sony&#8230; snatching defeat from the jaws of victory&#8230; or in this case, Concord from jaws of the biggest console playerbase.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726965\" data-author=\"users\/342389\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726965\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726965\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/342389\/avatar.jpg?v=1729762822\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Oz_Who_Dat_Dare\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726965\">188<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Oz_Who_Dat_Dare<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-07T09:05:58+00:00\">50m ago<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@get2sammyb the one thing I think should have been in the article was the Raphael Colantonio left in 2017 &#8211; 4 years before Microsoft bought out Zenimax\/Bethesda. So there&#8217;s unlikely to be any personal beef between Raphael and M$ (at least not during Arkane days). I suspect it says more about what happened after Arkane&#8230; especially when the GP wheel-barrows of cash stopped appearing.<\/p>\n<p>PS &#8211; btw, I am starting to get my internet security warnings when I use your site&#8230;. not for your site specifically, but I assume there&#8217;s some code buried in there that&#8217;s pointing to other black-listed sites (which you likely don&#8217;t get control over).<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726966\" data-author=\"users\/342389\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726966\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726966\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/342389\/avatar.jpg?v=1729762822\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Oz_Who_Dat_Dare\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726966\">189<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Oz_Who_Dat_Dare<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-07T09:11:21+00:00\">45m ago<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@RBRTMNZ they didn&#8217;t happen because of greed&#8230; they happened because M$ needed cash to pump into AI development with OpenAI. And they needed it fast. Outside selling the world&#8217;s biggest most successful game, the lever they have is to cut costs. Not saying it&#8217;s better than greed &#8211; but it&#8217;s because they want a monopoly on AI products into the future.<\/p>\n<p>Both for playing games, building games, and living your life in every other aspect when you&#8217;re not gaming.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726973\" data-author=\"users\/342389\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726973\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726973\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/342389\/avatar.jpg?v=1729762822\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Oz_Who_Dat_Dare\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726973\">190<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Oz_Who_Dat_Dare<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-07T09:25:55+00:00\">30m ago<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Bluemoon2008 how can GP impact game devs&#8230;well, because game devs generally don&#8217;t pay for the development of the games (except Indies)&#8230; in general, they are funded by publishers; who recoup their money through customers\/sales. In the case of the XB ecosphere, the biggest most important customer is M$&#8230; because they&#8217;re not selling anywhere near the number of games on the XB platform. But their customers will pay a subscription for games to appear regularly. And devs\/publishers are getting a share of somthing, rather than a whole lot of nothing.<\/p>\n<p>Devs\/publishers don&#8217;t need to accept deals on GP&#8230; however, as there&#8217;s much less purchasing on that ecosystem, you either have to jump on board if you can, or accept that the XB ecosystem is money left on the table (if you don&#8217;t). They have (as the saying appparently goes) ALL THE CARDS.<\/p>\n<p>Sony does the same thing on PS+, but the reality is, a lot more people still buy their games independently of PS+ on that platform. So they have the bigger player-base, but they also have less leverage.<\/p>\n<p>At the end of the day &#8211; I don&#8217;t think this issue was about GP (it&#8217;s about AI investment). I do think however that GP HAS DEFINITELY been distorting the industry for many years. And to be honest, I reflect on Netflix&#8230;. the gold standard for subscription models&#8230; and I have to say, there&#8217;s no shortage of content, but 99% of it is of no interest to me. It&#8217;s about the perception that it&#8217;s the best value in town &#8211; and that there&#8217;s always content coming (which is why M$ needs to feed the content monster&#8230; and if you can&#8217;t feed the monster&#8230; the monster gets hungry&#8230; and Poppa Monster doesn&#8217;t like it when Bubba Monster gets <em>hangry<\/em>).<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726974\" data-author=\"users\/225544\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726974\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726974\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/225544\/avatar.jpg?v=1748255014\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Max_the_German\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726974\">191<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Max_the_German<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-07T09:30:11+00:00\">26m ago<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare Your and my impression about Microsoft\u2018s interest in gaming differ: They invested dozens of billions in gaming, and they also spent a billion for fixing the Red Ring of Death back then with Xbox 360. In such a corporate group like Microsoft, every division must be profitable by itself (with a risk-adapted interest rate), there is no longtime subsidisation.<\/p>\n<p>Thankfully, Microsoft is not as dependent on one division as it is with Sony. THIS is what is much more worrying to me! If PlayStation suffers, the whole Sony group is in danger.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<article class=\"comment\" id=\"comment8726985\" data-author=\"users\/342389\" data-subject=\"comments\/8726985\" data-dislikes=\"0\" data-id=\"8726985\">\n<p class=\"avatar\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"framed lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/images.pushsquare.com\/users\/342389\/avatar.jpg?v=1729762822\" width=\"80\" height=\"80\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Oz_Who_Dat_Dare\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"detail\">\n<ul class=\"info\">\n<li class=\" first\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"num\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comment8726985\">192<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Oz_Who_Dat_Dare<\/li>\n<li class=\" last\"><time data-days=\"5\" class=\"date age \" datetime=\"2025-07-07T09:50:06+00:00\">6m ago<\/time><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<section class=\"text\">\n<p>@Max_the_German I don&#8217;t disagree &#8211; however, the reality is that M$ can send down an edict that XB has to sell of x% of assets\/debt\/investment to fund it&#8217;s other goals. It doesn&#8217;t matter how profitable XB is (I&#8217;m sure it IS profitable)&#8230; it&#8217;s about taking what&#8217;s needed for the bigger goals.<\/p>\n<p>My point was that if M$ decides the gaming foray was a big mistake, then I could very well see all of XB gaming being closed down. I don&#8217;t see that with Sony&#8230; And no, I don&#8217;t see that happening with M$ either &#8211; just that it&#8217;s possible, and the implications would be calamitous.<\/p>\n<p>Either way &#8211; whether it&#8217;s GP, or Phil, or Satya&#8230; having less gaming investment is not a good thing; because all it proves is that you shouldn&#8217;t get into game dev as a career.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n<ul class=\"ui-comment-tools\">\n<li class=\"likes first last\">0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<p class=\"empty\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\"ui-load-comments ui-cta-button\" onclick=\"this.innerHTML = 'Please Wait...'; this.classList.add('loading'); return false\" href=\"news\/2025\/07\/i-much-prefer-ps-plus-lifecycle-management-strategy-devs-weigh-in-on-xbox-game-pass-impact#comments\"><span class=\"icon icon-comments\"><\/span> Show Comments<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/section>\n<section id=\"reply\" class=\"block comments\">\n<header class=\"widget-header\">\n<p>Leave A Comment<\/p>\n<\/header>\n<div class=\"body\">\n<p class=\"empty\">Hold on there, you need to login to post a comment&#8230;<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/section>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"related-group optional\">\n<div class=\"insert centered block with-label lazyload for-mobile lazyload\">\n<div id=\"PS_MPU_X_F686B99C8BBF4A\" style=\"min-width:300px; 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